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FTF: Day’s back injury caused by swing? Tiger Woods SI cover talk

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The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine.

So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.

In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz.

Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.

Good talk around Sports Illustrated cover

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The cover above prompted a discussion about Tiger Woods’ place in the golf world and the post-Tiger era. Duffer 987 offered this tough take, “And that [the cover/headline] tells you everything you need to know about the state of golf in the consciousness of sports fan….Once Tiger is well and truly out of the picture, golf can return to the backwaters of pro sports, somewhere a notch above tennis,” which jumpstarted things.

Dave 230 offered this, “Jason Day wins two events in a row to go number 1. SI response – rehashed Tiger story. How will golf ever progress?”

Solid takes. Good discussion. See the thread.

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Tour pros love the GolfWRX Season Opener chip!

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Our founder started a thread to share some exciting news. Greg Moore, our Tour photographer, who’s on Tour providing the best equipment photos on the Internet has confirmed that big time Tour pros are loving the GolfWRX Season Opener chip. Adam Scott, Bubba Watson, and Jordan Spieth all have them.

To see who else Greg’s passed them along to, check out the thread.  

Wishon single length iron discussion

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With Bryson DeChambeau’s rise to prominence and impending professional debut, his single-length irons have been much discussed in the golfing world. Tom Wishon’s company is bringing a single length iron set to market, and this fact has led to shortage of discussion in the forums.

If you’re considering the single length option and want to see what WRXers are saying about single length clubs in general and Wishon’s Sterling model in particular, see the thread.

Jason Day’s back injury news leads to “pitfalls of the modern golf swing” discussion

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Jason Day is dealing with a disc issue that resulted in severe back spasms during his opening match at last week’s WGC-Dell Match play. Day’s difficulties compelled instructor and forum stalwart Monte Scheinblum to posit that Day is “another victim of restricting hip rotation” (a hallmark of the “modern” golf swing).

A thought-provoking take that merits further examination. The thread has grown to 10 pages in the week since Scheinblum kicked it off, so “further examination” is exactly what Scheinblum, and others, are engaging in.

See the thread.

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  1. pgadt

    Apr 2, 2016 at 1:45 am

    It is not the left heel off the ground. It’s the position at impact! Both legs straighten……specifically the motion of violently snapping the lead knee backward, straightening the trail leg, rotating the hips as fast as possible, and arching the back downward thru impact that causes the spine to torque. Ever heard of Moe Norman? Players who tend more towards a single plane, have fewer issues. It’s not the backswing that causes back issues…..it’s impact. The greats from the past have a flexed lead knee at impact.

  2. KS

    Apr 1, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Neither Nicklaus nor Palmer nor Player nor Watson kept their left heel planted, but they were also swinging heavier and perhaps stiffer clubs. Hogan lifted his heel and was pretty good. As was Byron Nelson. Probably the best swing of all time — Sam Snead’s — was a thing of beauty to watch in person, with his left heel gently coming up and then back down. More to the point, I don’t think he ever had a serious back problem, was limber into his 60s and even 70s, and never was seen doing power squats with 200+ pounds on his back. Both Nicklaus and Watson did end up with hip issues and eventual replacements, but I don’t recall very many smooth swinging heel lifters ever battling the lumbar spine problems of today’s restricted-turn, coil-torquing power hitters. The days of Gene Littler and Al Geiberger have been replaced by Fred Couples (bad back) with left heel planted and applying tremendous torque to the lumbar spine…and Tiger Woods (bad back) with his left heel planted and applying tremendous torque to the lumbar spine.

  3. Ron

    Apr 1, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    Brian Sparks, professional golfer and teacher in England teaches a golf swing that involves more movement/less restriction. His you tube videos look weird at first but they work. Keeping the left heel on the ground during the backswing, rotating the shoulders 90*, the hips no more than 45* and the knees no more than half of that lead to back and knee problems. Ask any reputable physical trainer who knows golf.

    Duh! Allow the left heel to come off the ground on the backswing, the hips to turn more, etc. You will NOT lose distance but will cause less damage to your back and knees.

    • Pat

      Apr 1, 2016 at 2:16 pm

      Your comment is absolutely ludacrous and ignorant. Restricting the hips and knees allows the golfer to store more power and then release it during the down swing. Kind of like a coil. Stop spreading your bs. Yes it’s a higher risk for injury, but the modern swing is built this way to maximize distance and height off the tee.

      • ooffa

        Apr 1, 2016 at 6:30 pm

        Whoa Pat. Chill out dude. Take a deep breath. Namaste buddy Namaste.

    • prime21

      Apr 1, 2016 at 2:30 pm

      If you allow the left heel to come off of the ground the left knee drives inwards towards the right knee as the weight of your body goes right. In order to hit the ball prior to hitting the ground on the way down, this weight must be shifted left. This excessive movement and change in weight distribution stresses the Medial and Lateral ligaments greatly. Exactly how does your theory cause less damage to the knees? The bottom line is that the golf swing, ANY golf swing, stresses the body. Without proper strength, flexibility, and recovery, the rotational motion in the swing stresses the back and the lateral change in weight distribution stresses the knees. A injury free swing does not exist, which is why players work on their fitness, in effort to combat the risk of injury. Players who swing as fast as J Day, are at a higher risk level because the stress they create is substantially greater. Duh!

  4. RoGar

    Apr 1, 2016 at 11:52 am

    This is my opinion on Tiger and top level players, golf swings have evolve tremendously in the past few years. Players striving to be the best have to work even harder, hours upon hours of practice, hours upon hours of physical training, among other things. The body just gives out, some manage to work to the limit, others exceed it. You hear it all the time, you have work harder, you have to put more hours, becoming a top level anything requires time and effort. It is a relentless pursuit that is only getting worse. Talent, a god given ability to perform a said act, not anymore!!! Thank you…

    • Forsbrand

      Apr 1, 2016 at 2:00 pm

      Most sense I’ve read in ages! We’re all sorts of shapes and builds and depending on your job beit at a desk or physical will have limitations or exceptions. Pro game becoming more elite at the top, nothing wrong with reaching a par 5 in 3 shots if you have a great pitching game. THROTTLE BACK and last longer?!

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What GolfWRXers are saying about accuracy vs distance with the driver

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In our forums, our members have been discussing whether accuracy or distance off the tee is more important. WRXer ‘ShortSticks’ poses the scenario:

“Driver A (Accuracy): Hits most fairways and is a very straight hitter just not as long. Usually 10 to 15 yards shorter than Driver B, but not in near as much trouble. Not very workable, but can be coaxed into a slight fade or draw.

Driver B (Distance): Is long but can be wild off the tee. Can hit to places you have never been, but can also put you in some bad spots that make recovery more difficult. Is workable, but at times can get away from you.”

And our members are having their say on which element of the game is more important these days.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • juststeve: “I would say in general, as long as you can hit in play, longer is better. Keeping it in play means no O.B, no water balls, no balls deep in the woods and having an unobstructed next shot from a reasonable lie.”
  • mattavery727: “For me definitely driver A. I have 118 SS, and sure I can try to step on it and carry it over 300, but I also find trouble way too often. If I take a smooth swing and give up 15-20 but still in a fairway I like my chances at hitting the green or being close. My 7 goes 185 so as long as I am 185 in or less I have a pretty short club in my hand.”
  • gambit: “10-15 yards I’ll take driver A for accuracy. 30 yards and I’ll take my chances of going in the rough and bunkers.”
  • Tasals: “For 10 yards? Driver A. IIRC the tour average is ~30 yards for the benefit of being wild compared to be straight. So a gap wadge from 120 in the rough has equivalent distance from hole stats as a fairway shot from 150. Then you start seeing the major benefits when you hit a fairway or get a first cut lie, the proximity to the hole decreases pretty rapidly. The longer players over a season make more birdies than the shorter hitters, they make more bogeys, but the long guys tend to place better, and win more tournaments as well when they can get away with a few bad shots. I just don’t think the 10 yards is enough of an advantage.”

Entire Thread: “Accuracy vs Distance with the driver”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about playing with a 5.5-degree driver

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In our forums, our members have been discussing playing a driver with just 5.5-degrees of loft. Bryson DeChambeau’s use of just 5.5-degrees of loft on his driver has plenty of golf fans speculating on the benefits, and WRXer ‘vater’ asks members how far they could launch the ball with the low lofted driver.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • OsnolaKinnard: “About 50 yards before it hit the ground.”
  • manima1: “If you teed it up high enough to get your AoA way up, you probably could launch it pretty far. Normal tee height – not so much.”
  • adh2k1: “I play a 6.5-degree driver. I currently set it at +1, but that is more of a spin issue than launch. I do not swing my driver very fast, I would guess upper 90’s, but this keeps me out of trouble the most, and I can get pretty good distance out of it. I would say I picked up about 10-15 yards over both of my Sub Zero Callaways. Like everything great, it eventually goes away. I have had this head for about 4 years, but it never stays in the bag for a full year.”
  • golfman1010: “The key with these low loft drivers is to make sure you’re hitting the ball on the upswing. You will notice Bryson DeChambeau uses a low degree of loft but still hits the ball high. To get this result, at address make sure your back shoulder drops a bit to ensure you are swinging up on the ball.”
  • Myherobobhope: “I think my Long Driver is 7 degrees… I can hit up on it and get decent launch… it’s more a struggle to handle the longer shaft (that’s what she said)… I have my 9.5 cobra driver down to 8.5 as I’ve always been high launch and high spin…5.5 is crazy, but you can make it work with the right swing mechanics… doesn’t mean it will be your best results, but you can make it work without swinging 130 mph. Driver really allows you to change your dynamic loft pretty dramatically.”

Entire Thread: “Playing with a 5.5-degree driver”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the most underrated well-priced modern putters

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In our forums, our members have been having an interesting discussion on modern putters. WRXer ‘Justsomeguy’ asks fellow members for their thoughts on the most underrated and well-priced modern-day putter, and WRXers have been having their say with lots of different flat-sticks receiving a mention.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • hsmahon: “Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 is the best putter for the price. Feels just as good as any Scotty.”
  • scottaz: “Mizuno M.Craft. Looks and feels great and easy to dial in with the weight kit. Three different styles and colors and cost less than most new high-end putters.”
  • James the Hogan fan: “Wilson infinite series is pretty good, Windy City is one of the anser variants. Sleek looking black finish and styling too.”
  • NRJyzer: “Hard to beat the Huntington Beach putters. Plenty of models to suit personal tastes. Quite soft feeling. I have a 1, thinking about checking out the 2 as I’ve been putting better with my Snake Eyes Viper Tour, and it’s the closest thing to an 8802ish stick.”
  • txgolfer45: “Original Ping Anser and Anser2. Picked up a MySpiderX earlier this year for $200 in like-new condition. Money well spent since new is $420.”

Entire Thread: “Most underrated well-priced modern putters”

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