Scratch Tour Department DW 1-Off Custom Muscle

by   |   August 13, 2012
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Scratch Tour Department DW 1-Off Custom Muscle GolfWRX
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By: Pure745

So it’s almost been 2 years since this I got my first set of custom DW SB1′s.

There have been a lot of really great irons that have come out, and none of them have even come close to replacing my DW SB1′s. Since then, I’ve seen some really 100% custom sets of muscle backs, flat backs, and some really unique designs that have got me thinking of IF I could design something custom, what would it be?

Well.. the Mizuno TN87 is one of my favorite heads of all time, and the Flatbacks I’ve been seeing have just looked incredible. So, basically.. a Don White ground, Flatback/TN87 1-off prototype. I started kicking around the idea with Ari.. I didn’t know how well the JDM-ish look would go with a hybrid of their Flatbacks.. I told him to talk to Don and see what Don thought about my idea. Apparently DW liked it, and he and Ari thought it would turn out really nice and unique. It got the final blessing from Patrick.. and off we went.


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Here are the details:

  • TN87/Flatback proto muscle back
  • Progressive COG
  • Progressive sole grinds D/S to D/D in the shorter irons
  • Progressive toe grind-roundish square to square in short irons
  • As long as possible from toe to heel-similar to 2-iron
  • Straight top line transitions on all clubs as opposed to a rounded top line that they normally do
  • New 48,54,58 wedges with new grinds
  • Conforming grooves
  • NS Pro Super Peening Blue
  • Based of MP14 specs

My original sketch:

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I know.. at this point, this thread is LONG.. so for that, I appologize :)  But, for those that care or have been following this process and are considering ordering a set for themselves, I feel like it’s only appropriate to give my feedback of the whole process and most importantly, how do they actually perform?

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First – The “Scratch TD Experience

In a nutshell.. this entire thread can be summed up with two pictures..

This:  What I drew with a sharpie of what I would pick if I could pick any design for a muscle shape (a blend of Mizuno TN87′s and Scratch FlatBack’s)

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The results, are simply incredible.  The craftsmanship is unreal, the fit and finish are perfect.  The irons have a truly custom look to them, but are so sharp and perfect that they look like they could be an OTR offering, sort of. The sole grinds and the shapes of the muscles are as functional as they are good looking.  The end result, I am beyond happy with and I really can’t say enough about how good Scratch and DW are.

The process.. for the most part, it was perfect.  There were a few snags along the way, but it’s somewhat to be expected since Scratch is a small operation and what they were making were 100% custom handmade clubs.  I think they could have done a better job with the small non-Scratch related parts, like making sure they had the grips I ordered in stock and planning ahead to have the “small” things taken care of.  DW finished my irons faster than Iomic delivered the back ordered grips.. splitting hairs, I know, but this is a review and can’t be all praising and kool-aide.

The major part of the “Scratch TD” experience – fitting, grinds, designs, ideas, specs.. etc.  That part was perfect.  All of the small things – ordering grips, shafts, and other small details could be better.  It sucks when small things slow up your order when the main/hard part is already done.  Tightening up a few things could make a huge difference when it could mean delivering your set 1-2 weeks sooner.

Now to the most important part.. I will pre-apologize for the length of my review.

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Final Burn – The Playing Review!

So I’ll start this with some pictures.. because I feel that the shaping and muscle design is has the biggest influence on the playability of these.

Notice the CG placement and how it varies from short to long iron.  Also, look at the difference in the face thickness and the positioning of the muscles in the MB’s vs. the single muscle on the SB1.

Left: DW SB1′s – Right: DW Custom MB’s

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Looks:

The MB’s look better.  Basically the new design was improving upon what was close to perfection with my first set of DW’s.  Basically I wanted flat top lines – no curve, longer toe to heel, slightly rounder but still squared toes.  DW nailed it, literally look perfect to my eye.

Feel:

The MB’s feel WAY better.  They even sound different.  They basically feel much more solid than the SB1′s and still retain the soft feeling that I love about my SB1′s.  If I could try to put it into words, the SB1′s would be soft/crisp, the MB’s would be soft/crisp/solid.  There is more mass behind the sweetspot and more mass higher in the head if you catch one high on the face.  Since these heads were ground to swing weight, you can really feel the weight of the head, and the added mass behind it when you’re hitting out of various lies.  Basically everything I love about the SB1′s but look better and feel better.

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Performance:

Keep in mind these are shafted with Nippon Super Peening Blue X’s and all specs were the exact same as my SB1′s, except these have conforming grooves.  The thing I noticed most is how much more accurate these have been.  First round out, I could work the ball both ways on command but could not figure out the distances at all.  The ball seems to fly with less spin and much less sidespin and balooning.  The MB’s seem to grab their line and start tracking sooner, my SB1′s seem to hoover a little more and can tail off at the end a little more than these do.  The grinds are a touch different, and another thing I noticed is that not only are these longer toe to heel, but also taller than the SB1′s.  So with that, they are also more forgiving.  If I were to post in the “most forgiving blade thread” this would be my pick.  The long irons also go higher than the SB1′s and the short irons go a touch lower.  I’ve hit some really good shots with the wedges, and some really bad shots as well.. I’m still trying to figure out the conforming grooves around the green, but on 3/4-full shots, they’ve been much better for me.

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Final Burn?

The DW MB’s look better, feel better, and are easier to hit than my DW SB1′s

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Starting point: Here is a play by play storyline of the build I did with Scratch Golf Custom department.

 

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Starting to take shape!

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Before/After:

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In progress pics of irons:

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Straight top lines are looking really good – I was very nervous about how this idea would actually look. Wedges so far – The stamping and finish should make these look really cool when they are done.

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Don White at work!

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DW with the first one after being cut:

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Unreal!!

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The pics above were right after the muscles were cut, these pictures are of DW softening and doing some more shaping. More shaping, and grinding – You can see the paper printout of my order and the picture of the TN87 I emailed with their hand written notes for DW re: shaping, progressive COG and grind info.  If you were ever wondering what they do with all the notes you make and send to them during your custom TD order, there it is!

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Some stamped and closer to finished pictures, they still have to be tumbled and few final touches before plating and finishing.. needless to say, I’m really excited to see these!

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TUMBLED & WEDGES STAMPED (ready for finishing)

Toe shapes are EXACTLY what I ordered.. shaped perfectly.  The muscles and blending of the different “steps” look really nice.. next and final step is having them plated and finish applied.

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Address picture of 58 degree – the straight top line, pretty unique looking.. looks better than I thought!

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Toe shapes are EXACTLY what I ordered.. shaped  perfectly.  The muscles and blending of the different “steps” look  really nice.. next and final step is having them plated and finish applied.

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UPDATE: 5/16 – Irons chromed + paint.. Wedges still having finish applied.

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UPDATE: 5/24 – Wedges are done, just waiting on paint and assembly-should have in hand next week!

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6/13: FINALLY!  IN-HAND PICS!

The day is finally here.. after back and forth with FedEx and re-routing etc.. I finally was able to pick up my finished DW sticks.  My initial reactions are that these are just incredible.. and unlike anything I’ve seen in person before.  The fit and finish is just as I expect from Scratch, and they have truly outdone themselves with these.  The pics I just took don’t really do these justice, but here goes:

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Progressive sole grinds:

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11 Comments

  1. Randy Kennedy

    June 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    Could i please receive info on these irons and prices and were i can purchase them.

    Thanks

  2. Danny

    September 14, 2012 at 11:43 am

    id play these if i sold everything i owned to buy them lol

  3. rex235

    September 5, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    It would be nice to know if Scratch/Don White could make a LH set like this, as I just happen to have a LH TN-87 2 iron. Had wanted a LH version of the Mac Tourney Custom 985 model.

  4. Paul

    September 3, 2012 at 6:31 am

    If I had the cash this is what I would be doing, getting a custom set made. Wow, what great looking irons. Good work Scratch!

  5. Jonny8

    August 30, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Thanks for the great insight.

    May I ask what the costs are?

    Cheers.

    Enjoy them

  6. Bernard Davidson

    August 27, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Where can I buy these

  7. Michael Crabb

    August 27, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    I have the SB-1′s but when I get ready to get the “next generation” Scratch irons, I know what to do.
    Great explanation and pictures. I’m geeked

  8. Rowan

    August 18, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    they NEED lefty!! please post some pics of the clubs finished from above view with grooves and such.

  9. Jacob

    August 16, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Those pictures almost brought tears to my eyes. Why won’t they do lefty? :(

  10. Solidstrike

    August 16, 2012 at 11:10 am

    That is by far one of the coolest things I’ve seen on this site to date. Thank you for sharing the experience and pictures!

  11. Brian Cass

    August 16, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Some very neat stuff there and great insight into the process.

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