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Putter Fitting: Why everyone can benefit from Quintic

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This is the first installment of a four-part series from Modern Golf on putter fitting and Quintic System. 

When it comes to putting, everyone thinks they’re an expert.

At least once, we have all been told what we were doing wrong on the putting green and how we SHOULD fix it. We see this universally — most golfers want to help other golfers get better. But are they really helping, and is the information they’re sharing accurate?

The truth is, without quantifying the given information, the answer is usually no. A system we use at Modern Golf called Quintic Ball Roll provides these answers by accurately measuring the interaction between the clubhead and ball. By doing so, a golfer can identify why they have certain habits. More importantly, they’ll know how to make the proper changes. Tangible results are the key to helping golfers with their putting technique and thus, the study of ball dynamics is here to stay.

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The Quintic Ball Roll portable unit consists of software and a high-speed camera that can be connected to any computer. Quintic captures 14 different data points at up to 360 frames per second from the beginning of the stroke to the first 16 inches of the putt. What makes Quintic most useful is that it gives ball data as well as clubhead data graphically and numerically. This allows the golfers and fitters to identify how the head of the putter moves through impact and how this affects the roll of the ball. Making changes to the stroke and the putter becomes easier as information is quantified.

Golfers of all skill levels can benefit from using Quintic. For a novice golfer, identifying something very basic in their putting stroke can have a measurable impact on lowering their scores. Something as simple as controlling launch angle can take strokes off ones game.

Some of the best players in the world are also using Quintic on a daily basis. Quintic has helped Rory McIlroy, the world’s No. 1-ranked golfer, as well as FedEx Cup Champion Henrik Stenson and Open Championship winner Darren Clarke, to name a few. For these players, making or missing a putt can be the difference between winning and losing, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize money.

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Quintic Screenshot: See the closed putter face at impact and how much the ball moves offline.

At Modern Golf, Quintic plays an integral role in our fitting experience. It eliminates any guess work involved in selecting a putter or fitting a player’s current putter. Through the collection of Quintic data, a professional fitter can then accurately and scientifically start to adjust an existing putter OR fit golfers into a putter that’s more suitable for their stroke.

Golfers can also instantly see why they may have certain tendencies. For example, if they have an inclination to miss putts on the left side from inside 10 feet, they may have a face angle issue. To make putts from inside 8 feet, we’ve learned that the face angle needs to be less than a 1 degree open or closed to the target. By identifying the face angle error we can help golfers eliminate that miss. In addition, all the data is saved for future reference to measure improvement.

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Quintic Screenshot: A square face at impact.

Statistically, the greater mass of golfers are not getting any better at golf. How can this be with all the advances in knowledge and technology? We think it’s the inability of golfers to see tangible results. Taking a final exam and not wanting to know your grade wouldn’t make much sense if your goal was to get smarter. Players can see results faster if they can identify their flaws and then work to remedy those flaws. Turning three putts into two, two putts into one — that is how to lower your scores. Quintic gives golfers this real and reliable data. That why if you are not using Quintic, you are instantly at a disadvantage.

Sadly, most golfers who haven’t used Quintic are, more than likely, practicing the wrong technique. A golfer’s perception of what they think they are doing versus what they are actually doing is often skewed. So the solution is simple — no more guess work. No more relying on what Mr. Smith told you on the putting green just before you teed off on day one of your Club Championship. Whether you are a scratch golfer or 30-handicap, we guarantee results using Quintic Ball Roll.

During a one-hour putter fitting (it costs $100), our professional fitters will accurately adjust a golfer’s existing putter or fit them into a putter that is more suitable for their stroke and ball roll. Players will leave with a fully fit putter and data for their future reference.

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Modern Golf was founded in 2011 and has established a reputation as Canada’s Premier golf club-fitting experience. With a brand agnostic approach to club-fitting, a 13,000 square foot state-of-the-art headquarters including a PGA Tour caliber workshop, Modern Golf can provide a demonstrable improvement to your golf game. Regardless of our customers’ age, gender, or skill level, our highly trained club-fitters and experienced club builders can custom tailor our customers’ golf equipment to produce improved on-course results. The Modern Golf team is excited to share their expertise with the GolfWRX Community. www.moderngolf.ca

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15 Comments

  1. Tiger and Rory

    Feb 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Little known fact: A putt that skips goes very straight. Air has less resistance than the ground. Speed is determined by force and loft at impact.

    “True roll” is a BS marketing term used to sell stuff.

    • Joey

      Sep 30, 2018 at 6:31 am

      May as well putt with a 60 degree lob wedge then Einstein.

  2. Mike

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    How does this device differ from SAM Putting Lab? Anyone know?

    • Brian

      Jan 30, 2015 at 6:23 am

      Quintic is different from SAM because nothing attaches to your putter. It reads the putter as well as the ball roll. While it is important to have a proper putter it is still more important to be able to roll the ball on the intended line consistently with a consistent roll. This system shows lots of data that relates to both.

    • MGolfer

      Jan 30, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      SAM reads the direct 3D movement of the putter with highly accurate technology. So all aspects of the full movement can be analyzed.
      For the ball roll the SAM only does a estimate on how the putter face comes to the ball. There is a spin and direction prediction which is based on the physics of contact of putter face and ball.

      The Quintic also can measure parts of the putter movement with the extended software package. Difference to SAM is that the analysis is based on a sticker on the putter head and image analysis algorithms. This will allow quite good readings for position and maybe loft. But for face angles or path or lie the accuracy will be not as good as SAM. Also the putter can only be analysed in the view of the camera – which is limited to a short range around impact.

      The ball roll is very important for a good putt. However, the putter movement is what controls the ball roll in the end. If you want to improve this you need the full picture of the putter movement to know what to change. Optimized putting stroke will automatically lead to better ball roll.

      • Tiger and Rory

        Feb 27, 2015 at 12:30 pm

        ^ this is exactly it. A camera based system from the side doesn’t capture the whole picture. When the ball is not directly in front of the lens then what? I’ll take a Puttlab any day over this infomercial.

  3. MAM

    Jan 29, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    Great article and every article ever written is basically an advertisement for everyone no matter what it is. Especially in the golf industry to be successful you have to advertise your self 100%. And the comment about the glass door. Lol.

    Great article and play well

  4. Philip

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    There is nothing quite like the acid test of placing a club in your bag, which is why I have decided to go the old-fashion way of putter fitting and purchase a bunch of cheap old classics of high quality and various styles to see what type fits me the best. I’m also doing the same for my irons and shafts.

    I find in the store or in a booth feels different from the course and driving range, and as such the results are not accurate.

  5. Modern Golf Staff

    Jan 29, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Guys,

    We appreciate the early feedback. However it is important for us to mention that this article is not designed to promote our facility, it is the first of a 4 part series on how our technologies can help the average golfer. This article is just the introduction to how we at Modern Golf use Quintic Ball Roll technology.

    We appreciate you taking the time to read the article and we look forward to hearing your feedback on the remainder of this series.

    Team MG

  6. Bill

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:14 am

    As a frequent reader of this site, I really hate clicking on an article only for it to be an advertisement

  7. Jason Lloyd

    Jan 29, 2015 at 11:06 am

    I’m confused…

    Is this an advertisement? If it is, it’s not a good one. I’d at least get the door leaning against the wall out of the picture and maybe have a club-fitter in the picture???

    Is it an article? If it is, it’s very poorly written and wrx needs to step it up.

    Quintic is very cool tech, but it’s obviously not solving this guys problem of his eyes way too far over the ball! Maybe he should get a lesson and not a fitting.

  8. frendy

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Why is this piece filed under ‘Opinion and Analysis’?

  9. Alex

    Jan 29, 2015 at 10:20 am

    I’ve seen quite a number of golfers with strange putting techniques and lots of confidence hole out from everywhere. I do believe putting is something personal, subjetive and the right technique works fine to become an average putter.

    Good putters are above all confident on the green and they repeat the same swing over and over.

  10. Brian

    Jan 29, 2015 at 9:55 am

    While this is a glorified commercial posed as journalism, I think it’s good information. I just got fitted for a full bag last month after 4 years of playing. The putter info was most helpful. The fitter bent my putter so that the ball rolled pure off the face without any skipping. And told me that I need a 45 degree too hang mallet. Good luck finding those!

    Get fit. Anywhere that is reputable.

    • M

      Jan 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      Brian – Ping makes putter that fit straight all the way up to strong arc (large rotation putters). Technically a mallet with that much toe hang will very hard to produce due to the CG of the clubhead being further from the face.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 LIV Adelaide betting preview: Cam Smith ready for big week down under

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After having four of the top twelve players on the leaderboard at The Masters, LIV Golf is set for their fifth event of the season: LIV Adelaide. 

For both LIV fans and golf fans in Australia, LIV Adelaide is one of the most anticipated events of the year. With 35,000 people expected to attend each day of the tournament, the Grange Golf Club will be crawling with fans who are passionate about the sport of golf. The 12th hole, better known as “the watering hole”, is sure to have the rowdiest of the fans cheering after a long day of drinking some Leishman Lager.  

The Grange Golf Club is a par-72 that measures 6,946 yards. The course features minimal resistance, as golfers went extremely low last season. In 2023, Talor Gooch shot consecutive rounds of 62 on Thursday and Friday, giving himself a gigantic cushion heading into championship Sunday. Things got tight for a while, but in the end, the Oklahoma State product was able to hold off The Crushers’ Anirban Lahiri for a three-shot victory. 

The Four Aces won the team competition with the Range Goats finishing second. 

*All Images Courtesy of LIV Golf*

Past Winners at LIV Adelaide

  • 2023: Talor Gooch (-19)

Stat Leaders Through LIV Miami

Green in Regulation

  1. Richard Bland
  2. Jon Rahm
  3. Paul Casey

Fairways Hit

  1. Abraham Ancer
  2. Graeme McDowell
  3. Henrik Stenson

Driving Distance

  1. Bryson DeChambeau
  2. Joaquin Niemann
  3. Dean Burmester

Putting

  1. Cameron Smith
  2. Louis Oosthuizen
  3. Matt Jones

2024 LIV Adelaide Picks

Cameron Smith +1400 (DraftKings)

When I pulled up the odds for LIV Adelaide, I was more than a little surprised to see multiple golfers listed ahead of Cameron Smith on the betting board. A few starts ago, Cam finished runner-up at LIV Hong Kong, which is a golf course that absolutely suits his eye. Augusta National in another course that Smith could roll out of bed and finish in the top-ten at, and he did so two weeks ago at The Masters, finishing T6.

At Augusta, he gained strokes on the field on approach, off the tee (slightly), and of course, around the green and putting. Smith able to get in the mix at a major championship despite coming into the week feeling under the weather tells me that his game is once again rounding into form.

The Grange Golf Club is another course that undoubtedly suits the Australian. Smith is obviously incredibly comfortable playing in front of the Aussie faithful and has won three Australian PGA Championship’s. The course is very short and will allow Smith to play conservative off the tee, mitigating his most glaring weakness. With birdies available all over the golf course, there’s a chance the event turns into a putting contest, and there’s no one on the planet I’d rather have in one of those than Cam Smith.

Louis Oosthuizen +2200 (DraftKings)

Louis Oosthuizen has simply been one of the best players on LIV in the 2024 seas0n. The South African has finished in the top-10 on the LIV leaderboard in three of his five starts, with his best coming in Jeddah, where he finished T2. Perhaps more impressively, Oosthuizen finished T7 at LIV Miami, which took place at Doral’s “Blue Monster”, an absolutely massive golf course. Given that Louis is on the shorter side in terms of distance off the tee, his ability to play well in Miami shows how dialed he is with the irons this season.

In addition to the LIV finishes, Oosthuizen won back-to-back starts on the DP World Tour in December at the Alfred Dunhill Championship and the Mauritus Open. He also finished runner-up at the end of February in the International Series Oman. The 41-year-old has been one of the most consistent performers of 2024, regardless of tour.

For the season, Louis ranks 4th on LIV in birdies made, T9 in fairways hit and first in putting. He ranks 32nd in driving distance, but that won’t be an issue at this short course. Last season, he finished T11 at the event, but was in decent position going into the final round but fell back after shooting 70 while the rest of the field went low. This season, Oosthuizen comes into the event in peak form, and the course should be a perfect fit for his smooth swing and hot putter this week.

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The Wedge Guy: What really makes a wedge work? Part 1

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Of all the clubs in our bags, wedges are almost always the simplest in construction and, therefore, the easiest to analyze what might make one work differently from another if you know what to look for.

Wedges are a lot less mysterious than drivers, of course, as the major brands are working with a lot of “pixie dust” inside these modern marvels. That’s carrying over more to irons now, with so many new models featuring internal multi-material technologies, and almost all of them having a “badge” or insert in the back to allow more complex graphics while hiding the actual distribution of mass.

But when it comes to wedges, most on the market today are still single pieces of molded steel, either cast or forged into that shape. So, if you look closely at where the mass is distributed, it’s pretty clear how that wedge is going to perform.

To start, because of their wider soles, the majority of the mass of almost any wedge is along the bottom third of the clubhead. So, the best wedge shots are always those hit between the 2nd and 5th grooves so that more mass is directly behind that impact. Elite tour professionals practice incessantly to learn to do that consistently, wearing out a spot about the size of a penny right there. If impact moves higher than that, the face is dramatically thinner, so smash factor is compromised significantly, which reduces the overall distance the ball will fly.

Every one of us, tour players included, knows that maddening shot that we feel a bit high on the face and it doesn’t go anywhere, it’s not your fault.

If your wedges show a wear pattern the size of a silver dollar, and centered above the 3rd or 4th groove, you are not getting anywhere near the same performance from shot to shot. Robot testing proves impact even two to three grooves higher in the face can cause distance loss of up to 35 to 55 feet with modern ‘tour design’ wedges.

In addition, as impact moves above the center of mass, the golf club principle of gear effect causes the ball to fly higher with less spin. Think of modern drivers for a minute. The “holy grail” of driving is high launch and low spin, and the driver engineers are pulling out all stops to get the mass as low in the clubhead as possible to optimize this combination.

Where is all the mass in your wedges? Low. So, disregarding the higher lofts, wedges “want” to launch the ball high with low spin – exactly the opposite of what good wedge play requires penetrating ball flight with high spin.

While almost all major brand wedges have begun putting a tiny bit more thickness in the top portion of the clubhead, conventional and modern ‘tour design’ wedges perform pretty much like they always have. Elite players learn to hit those crisp, spinny penetrating wedge shots by spending lots of practice time learning to consistently make contact low in the face.

So, what about grooves and face texture?

Grooves on any club can only do so much, and no one has any material advantage here. The USGA tightly defines what we manufacturers can do with grooves and face texture, and modern manufacturing techniques allow all of us to push those limits ever closer. And we all do. End of story.

Then there’s the topic of bounce and grinds, the most complex and confusing part of the wedge formula. Many top brands offer a complex array of sole configurations, all of them admittedly specialized to a particular kind of lie or turf conditions, and/or a particular divot pattern.

But if you don’t play the same turf all the time, and make the same size divot on every swing, how would you ever figure this out?

The only way is to take any wedge you are considering and play it a few rounds, hitting all the shots you face and observing the results. There’s simply no other way.

So, hopefully this will inspire a lively conversation in our comments section, and I’ll chime in to answer any questions you might have.

And next week, I’ll dive into the rest of the wedge formula. Yes, shafts, grips and specifications are essential, too.

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