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Ping’s new G30 driver was spotted on the range at The Greenbrier Classic this morning.

The G30 is Ping’s first G-series driver release since late 2012 when the highly acclaimed G25 started popping up on Tour. The Ping G25 was widely considered as one of the most balanced drivers on the market, providing a combination of distance and forgiveness that few others could match. It seems Ping has made some improvements with its new G30.

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The driver has “Turbulators,” which come in the shape of six fins on the top of the black matte crown that frame the center of the club head. The turbulators are put in place to increase aerodynamics, according to discussions in our forum, and are said to reducing drag to increase club head speed and distance.

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With the G30, Ping also adds more “pop” to its best-selling driver line with a bright blue color scheme. The subtle addition of a blue hue, seen with a stripe on the bottom of the driver head, becomes more apparent on the head cover.

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Of course, Bubba Watson opted for a more flashy, patented-pink look with his G30. Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about Bubba’s new Ping G30 driver.

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Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the Ping G30 drivers in the forums

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  1. JEFF

    Jan 11, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Who cares, when is the G30 LS on the market?

  2. KennyD

    Jul 3, 2014 at 8:01 am

    Talked to Regional Ping Rep who said he was at the testing where the were looking at Bubba Watson and Hunter Mahan’s numbers with this driver. He said he personally saw 5 and 4 mph increase in club head speed respectively. Same swing – same ball, etc. With proper spin and launch 1mph increase in club head speed equates to 3 yards gained. So Bubba picks up 15 and Hunter 12.
    Shaft is UST designed to be perfect match for G30 head based on computer model and robotic swing analysis. There will be an option for the Tour Grade UST shaft that is the exact shaft played by their tour players – he said these shafts are Ping QC Engineer tested and will outperform (in this head) just about any other shaft you could put in it. No need to put a $350 Diamana in.

  3. KennyD

    Jul 3, 2014 at 7:59 am

    I appreciate the fact that the EXACT Ping driver their tour pros are playing, you can play. No Pro model like other manufacturers. TM makes 3 versions – Standard Market, Tour Preferred and then PGA Tour Heads. Our local club’s pro was told that the PGA model driver was not available for him by the TM rep.

  4. Chuck

    Jul 2, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    So other than the “turbulators,” what else is different about the G30?

    It is a G25 with turbulators?

    (I think I need to concede that there may be a different hosel sleeve tip. Is that right? 1 degree adustability instead of .5? Okay, what else?

  5. JEFF

    Jul 2, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    WOW, Just when I thought ping was on the right track they go and add STUPID C$@P to the top of the driver heads. We don’t need racing stripes and don’t need fins ok? Thank god I still have my plain flat black anser.And if those great asinine turbulator fins(asinine name by the way) are so great , why doesn’t everyone have them……GEEEEEEEZ!

    • Brandel

      Jul 3, 2014 at 3:39 am

      The fins work the same as dimples on a golf ball. It’s all about aerodynamics and reducing drag. The larger the club head generally the more drag you produce. With every mph gained in clubhead speed the drag coefficient is increased 4 times. I saw a car prototype that an oem built with golf ball type dimples all over the skin of the car which increased fuel efficiency by 30% because of decreased drag. Personally I think the G25 was a big club head with a lot of drag but still one of the best drivers. Aerodynamics was probably the biggest performance enhancement Ping could improve with the G30 while still maintaining the best aspects of the G25.

    • KennyD

      Jul 3, 2014 at 7:40 am

      Jeff – Actually testing of Bubba Watson and Hunter Mahan showed increased club head speed of 5 and 4 mph respectively simply by the turbulator modification. Secondly the bottom of the club has corresponding wind channels that work the same as the turbulators only in reverse. Though your preferences are duly noted they do s not align with testing and the laws of aerodynamics.

  6. Fred

    Jul 1, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    At one time, I was considering buying either a PING i or G series driver. But after seeing so many of them in the used club racks at Golfsmith, I opted out of that idea and went with Titleist.

  7. Golfraven

    Jul 1, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    hmm, interesting BUT

  8. Markb

    Jul 1, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Something just occurred to me. If turbulators break up the laminar flow of air over the clubhead, thus increasing clubhead speed, shouldn’t we have them on the bottom and side of the clubhead as well.

    Or better yet, don’t we already have them in the form of slots, dimples, holes, grooves, indentations, cavities, ridges and channels all over the bottoms of the every club already?

    And if that is the case, will these tiny protruberances on the crown really make that much of a difference? I tend to think not. But I’ll reserve judgement until I have the club in hand and can test it against the G25 to see if it generates a higher club head speed.

    • STEPHANE MORENCY

      Jul 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm

      I think we cant argue with laws of physics. Aerodynamics is one of the most underrated aspect of our every day life.
      Ans yes these little dimples on golf balls, diffuser in front of a truck and polished rivets on an airplane do make a difference I assume.

    • Brandel

      Jul 6, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      You do not need turbulators on the bottom of the club. Much like the surface of an aircraft wing, the air going over the top of the clubhead has to travel a longer distance than the airflow going under the head. Due to the high angle created by the face to the crown of the head the airflow separates from the airfoil in a turbulent state causing drag. The turbulators are basically what the aero space industry calls Vortex Generators used on the topside of aircraft wings. The turbulators energize the airflow over the crown reducing the separation allowing it to following airfoil design which reduces drag. Cessna 172 aircraft that seat 4 people and weigh around 2500 ibs can fly as slow 55mph and with vortex generators stall speeds are reduced by 10% and cruise speeds are increased by 12% just by reducing drag. If the turbulators work on an aircraft flying 55 mph you better believe they will have an impact on a clubhead moving over 100mph.

  9. Jim

    Jul 1, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Love my G25 Driver, Fairway and Rescues just the way they are.

  10. Brandon

    Jul 1, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Does not look too bad. I have not had a ping driver since the original ISI been playing Titleist for ever but recently picked up a R1 Black and liking it seems a bit easier to hit than the Titleist and long. My brother used to work at Golf Smith and I would go in there to visit him and try clubs the Ping was always longest for me on the simulator. But ya they will probably start putting airplane wings on them next. For all the guys who announce themselves as scratch golfers in the forums I am calling BS on 85% of them. give or take %5.

    • leftright

      Jul 1, 2014 at 1:33 pm

      You are correct. WRX reminds me of the guy that showed up on the first tee at the Magnolia course in Orlando a few years ago. We only had 3 and he was joining us. Had nice sticks, clothes, $250 Footjoys and a Titleist staff bag. He said he was a 7 and wanted in on our game. He was horrible and probably shot over 110..but he looked the part. He was nice though, bought drinks and you could tell he was humiliated. We gave him some tips when he asked and didn’t take his money. At my college qualifier we had a guy with a pull cart, old powerbilt irons (this was 1976), fairly nice powerbilt driver, bullseye putter and a “half-glove.” He shot 4 rounds under 80 with a low of 73 and made the 6th spot. If he could chip he would be a solid scratch golfer but probably a solid 3-4. Beautiful high draws.

      • MHendon

        Jul 1, 2014 at 4:44 pm

        1976 college qualifier, damn i figured i was one of the old guys on here. I was just in 1st grade in 76. But I know what you mean a lot of posers on this site.

  11. Murray

    Jul 1, 2014 at 6:14 am

    I just hope I don’t like it and distance increase is minimal.I like my driver,3 wood and hybrid to match and my g25 woods are pretty new. Wonder if they are staying with the same half degree hosel. And elongated head.Hard to tell from photo.

    • Steve

      Jul 2, 2014 at 9:41 am

      The new 30 will adjust a FULL degree. They will also have a Draw version.

  12. NG

    Jul 1, 2014 at 2:25 am

    Very Burner Superfast like…

    • leftright

      Jul 1, 2014 at 1:25 pm

      Not even close to Superfast look. Nothing out there looks like the Ping drivers but other Ping drivers. The weight distribution and COG’s are quite a bit different also. Ping’s spin more but are easier to get airborne.

  13. JK

    Jun 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    Looks like the tip is the same?

  14. c masty

    Jun 30, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Next, we’ll have adjustable turbulators.

  15. BG

    Jun 30, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    What’s with the BLUE & GREY??? Again???

    • BG

      Jun 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm

      Everybody copies TM

      • Billy baroo

        Jun 30, 2014 at 6:29 pm

        Speaking of crapily-made . Im pretty sure tom lehman was hitting another driver besides that tin can that oscar the grouch lives in r7 seems like they would be next to come out with something

        • leftright

          Jul 1, 2014 at 1:22 pm

          If you cut open a Taylormade driver then cut open a Ping driver…I promise you will be more impressed with Ping. The welds are brazed and painted and it looks better made period. The insides of TM drivers, while not affecting performance in most heads look like Chinese knockoffs. Oh, I’m sorry, Tm’s are made in China. Ping clubs are made in USA, of course GM is not making that sound anygood. Not necessarily putting down TM, I’m just saying you are mistaken to say Pings are cheaply made. They have the best quality control in the business.

          • Brandel

            Jul 3, 2014 at 11:31 pm

            Hate to burst your bubble but most of pings stuff is manufactured in China and Taiwan. Only a limited amount of their products are made in the USA. Only a couple of putter models are made in the USA. Even the wedges are made in Asia and grooved in the USA. Replacement clubs are made in the USA so if your Chinese G30 cracks you will get a club made and assembled in the USA. I also guarantee Tour Edge Exotics equals Ping in production quality.

      • Cam

        Jun 30, 2014 at 9:18 pm

        Except Titleist

      • GB

        Jul 1, 2014 at 2:56 am

        Even the head cover looks similar to the SLDR one

      • Chammer

        Jul 1, 2014 at 9:20 am

        Ping did blue and grey 10 years ago with the G2 line. If others companies didn’t copy PING there would be no heel toe weighted putters, investment cast irons, cavity back irons, custom fitting, L wedges, and adjustable drivers and fwy woods.

        • MHendon

          Jul 2, 2014 at 11:18 am

          All great points except for the adjustable driver and fwy woods, I believe Taylormade gets credit for that one.

      • Barry Goodman

        Nov 22, 2014 at 10:33 am

        Are you kidding???
        TM copied Adams, (slot) was going to be sued by Adams, so big bad TM bought Adams so they can copy them with immunity!
        TMTC

  16. 3 putts

    Jun 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    It’s def not a pretty club but if it performs then people will get over it. The 2 ball was awful looking but it sold a lot for odyssey. Can’t base everything off looks.

  17. Tyler

    Jun 30, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Ping has always been true to the numbers first and foremost so you can bet it’s going to perform. At the last demo days I went to every manufacturer was represented and I tried every one of them, but the only one I came back to was Ping (me and nearly everyone else at the demo days). They just make stuff that works.

  18. tmk

    Jun 30, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    I’m surprised by how much reaction there is to the turbulators. I’m a scratch golfer, and pretty traditional with regard to equipment, and I just don’t see it as a big deal. I actually like the way it looks quite a bit. I’ve not changed drivers in six years, but I’m definitely interested in this. Any info on stock shafts would be great. Aldila Tour Green would make me very happy.

    • cb

      Jun 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm

      i second that but lately it seems like ping only uses their own brand shafts as the stock shafts

      • jjk

        Jun 30, 2014 at 5:40 pm

        This annoys me more than anything with Ping. I’m sorry but to me there is no justification for Ping pricing their equipment the same as the other OEMs when they are using cheap house made shafts. So much for “customization” being most important.

        • Floor-is

          Jun 30, 2014 at 5:56 pm

          Their OEM shafts aren’t “cheap shafts” in all fairness. They’re designed with the big brands to fit the specific needs of PING.

        • Kyle

          Jun 30, 2014 at 8:41 pm

          UST or Aldila usually make their shafts, so if you want to point a finger at someone for cheap shafts and overpriced equipment, point it at TMAG.

          • Scooter McGavin

            Jun 30, 2014 at 11:10 pm

            This. Ping’s shafts are anything but cheap. Their driver shafts are USTs and are actually good quality. The remark about TMag is spot on, as they are one of the few companies still using cheap made-for shafts. Callaway and Cobra are also offender, but I would say Taylormade is the worst. At least with Callaway, you can order the legit shaft offering (from the Pro model) for the same price.

          • NG

            Jul 1, 2014 at 2:29 am

            I’m sure Fujikura will be real happy with your comment about TMAGS ‘cheap’ shafts!

          • bradford

            Jul 1, 2014 at 6:54 am

            Actually, Titleist is the biggest offender of the “Made-for” shaft world. TMAg Shafts are legit, just painted. Don’t believe the internet…

        • Chammer

          Jul 1, 2014 at 9:24 am

          Jlk the shafts PING use for their clubs are much higher quality and held to tighter specs than any other company. Ping actually design the shafts used in their clubs rather than other companies putting in the cheapest shaft they can make then putting a popular models name on it.

        • chris

          Jul 1, 2014 at 11:14 am

          Cheap housemade shafts? Not hardly. Proprietary yes. Excellent yes. I’ve tried Graphite Design, Mitsubishi, Fujikura, Aldila and other “premium” shafts over the years, and the stock Ping Tour Stiff shaft in my G25 driver is the most stable, well performing driver shaft I’ve ever owned. Period. And, if you don’t believe me and want a “brand name” shaft because you care about appearance more than performance, you can order your Ping driver with many different brand name shafts for the same price, not an upcharge.

          • MHendon

            Jul 1, 2014 at 4:55 pm

            Most of the people on here just follow what their favorite pro plays. Mickelson fans swear by Fubuki, Tiger fans swear by Mitsubishi blue boards except when he was gaming the Di6. It’s all about the name. Most of these guys talk like they’re some kind of expert claiming made for shafts suck, well the wear spot dead in the center of the face of my Nike VrPro lmt would seam to indicate that my made for Mitsubishi is pretty damn stable.

          • Patrick

            Jul 28, 2014 at 4:18 pm

            I have a friend that is a supplier to Ping. When he calls on them and they go out to play golf, every single one of them has the Ping shafts in their drivers. They can get any shaft they want, but they choose the ping shaft because it is designed for the head and performs better.

        • master fitter

          Jul 1, 2014 at 3:34 pm

          How Do you know they’re cheap? R&D doesn’t even know price, they’re not allowed to talk price on house shafts. The only thing that matters at ping is if it performs best under robot testing. Just because other manufacturers use house shafts as a way to save money doesn’t mean ping does.

        • TJ

          Jul 2, 2014 at 8:42 am

          if you have a chance to put an aftermarket shaft like the tour green and compare it to the stock ping shafts, you may be surprised from the results. I have the Ping Rapture 3 wood with there stock Tour X shaft in it, I bought tips and plugged a Graphite design Tour AD Di 8X in it and guess what the ping shaft out performed the Tour AD. on the launch monitor I was landing it anywhere from 255 to 260 with the tour AD and 265+ with the Stock shaft and might I add with lower spin resulting in a 15 yard difference.

          also throw a stock Ping club in with a stock taylo club into a shaft frequency measurement machine and you will see that the ping plays a lot stiffer than the taylo.

          • MHendon

            Jul 2, 2014 at 11:28 am

            “throw a stock Ping club in with a stock taylo club into a shaft frequency measurement machine and you will see that the ping plays a lot stiffer than the taylo.” That’s because Callaway first then Taylormade following their lead notice they could sell more clubs playing off the ego’s of high handicap golfers. So they started listing regular flex shafts as stiff and 10.5 degree heads as 8.5. Ping and Titleist have always stayed truer to the numbers.

    • KennyD

      Jul 3, 2014 at 7:48 am

      I am in agreement with you. I kinda like it. Ping rep told me that the shafts are UST’s that matches the particular weighting specs and swing characteristics of the turbulator. He also said that there will be an option that gets you the pro shaft UST Mamiya Tour Grade – better than what you can get off the shelf b/c they are spec controlled by Ping QC Engineers.

  19. Billy baroo

    Jun 30, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    The hybrids and fairways look pretty slick as well like the blue color but wish they had the stripes love them on my i25

  20. Clemson Sucks

    Jun 30, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Love the matte black head. Could probably get over the “turbulators”.

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  22. Shawn

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:46 am

    Ummmm…. No thank you!

  23. Scooter McGavin

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Can anyone clarify what the author means by Ping’s first driver release since the G25 in 2012? Wasn’t the i25 just released not too long ago?

    • cb

      Jun 30, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      he said its the first g-series driver since 2012. the i-25 is the i-series

  24. Tybo

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:31 am

    currently play the g25. very interested in testing this.

  25. mpeezee

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:26 am

    The local Ping rep claimed Bubba has added 16 yards?!?!? w/G30 driver and that he’s been begging to put it in play since before the US Open. Forgiveness has also somehow even been improved more!

    • MHendon

      Jun 30, 2014 at 11:48 am

      I’ll believe that when his driving distance stats for a year increase by 16 after putting it in the bag!

      • Larry

        Jun 30, 2014 at 7:34 pm

        I would not belive tour stats for driving distance, they only measure 2 par 4’s each week and many times players are trying for a target not distance on one or both those holes…..Having worked several PGA evnts I can asure the world 85 to 95% of PGA players can drive the ball over 300 yards but most of them are more interested in keeping ball within a certain area of the course…

        • MHendon

          Jul 1, 2014 at 5:00 pm

          Well it’s actually two holes each round and they try and pick holes where one is into the wind and one is with the wind. They also try and pick holes where it’s more than likely most of the players in the field will hit driver. With that said I don’t see Bubba laying back to much when both of his feet are off the ground at impact.

    • DJ

      Jun 30, 2014 at 11:22 pm

      I heard it was 1.6 yards and that’s cause he hit it straight instead of his patented cut.

    • andy

      Jul 1, 2014 at 7:57 am

      Well they wouldn’t say 16yds shorter would they?

  26. Inthejonzone

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Anyone know what the stock shaft options will be?

  27. cb

    Jun 30, 2014 at 11:13 am

    not sure how i feel about the raised alignment marks, thought they were going to put the stripes on it like the i25. i do like that they are very subtle though. but if its even more forgiving/long than the g25 then it will be deadly for sure.

    • Kyle

      Jun 30, 2014 at 11:28 am

      Not alignment aids. They are turbulators to increase aerodynamics. Make the the driver cut through the air like a much smaller driver would to increase ball speed

      • Bryan

        Jun 30, 2014 at 11:46 am

        “Turbulators?” What the hell have we done to this game….
        Does Ping really think that Air Flaps on a driver REALLY make an appreciable impact on speed and distance? I can appreciate Ping and Titleist not launching drivers every 6 months like Taylormade at least.

        • Kyle

          Jun 30, 2014 at 12:16 pm

          Distance is distance. For me I’d much rather have a shorter club into the green any day. In this industry it’s innovate or die right now and it may not be that appealing in pictures, but it’s PING who arguably puts more R&D into their products then anyone. See it in person and hit it before you write it off because it’s not what a “traditional” driver normally looks like.

          • MHendon

            Jul 1, 2014 at 11:26 pm

            I think it’s more of create the illusion of innovation or die these day’s. Honestly there hasn’t been any real true game improvement innovation in years, but your right, Ping has probably been the most innovative company of any.

        • MHendon

          Jun 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm

          Here’s the thing about those turbulators, they may actually help stabilize the the head for someone with extreme clubhead speed like say Bubba, but for the avg Joe with sub 100 mph clubhead speed, not so much.

          • James

            Jun 30, 2014 at 3:30 pm

            That’s not the case for cars. I know that wind friction is greater with larger objects, but if the find even increase the club head marginally (1-2mph), that would still increase ball speed and yardage by at least 5yards.

            Ultimately, you can really knock on the performance hypothetically until you try it. But you can knock on the aesthetics all you want…

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Whats in the Bag

Andrew Landry’s winning WITB: The American Express 2020

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Driver: Ping G410 LST (10.5 degrees, neutral setting)
Shaft: Aldila Tour Blue 65 TX (tipped 1″, 45.25″)

3-wood: TaylorMade M5 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Yellow

5-wood: Ping G (set at 17.75)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Yellow 85-6.5 (42″)

7-wood: Ping G410 (set at 20.5 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Yellow 83-6.5 (41″, tipped 2″)

Irons: Ping iBlade (4-PW)
Shafts: Nippon Modus3 105-X

Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (46 bent to 45), Titleist Vokey Design SM8 (54, 60 degrees)
Shafts: Nippon Modus3 Tour 105-X

Putter: Ping Vault 2.0 ZB Stealth (33″, 22° lie, 3° loft)
Grip: PP58 Full Cord Standard

Grips: Lamkin Crossline Full Cord 58R

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

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Lee Westwood’s winning WITB: 2020 Abu Dhabi HSBC Golf Championship

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Driver: Ping G410 Plus (10.5 degrees at 10 degrees, neutral)
Shaft: Aldila NV 2KXV Green 65 X (tipped 1/2 inch)

3-wood: Ping G410 (14.5 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila NV 2KXV Green

Hybrid: Ping G410 (19 degrees at 19.7)
Shaft: Aldila Tour Green Hybrid 85 X (40.5 inches)

Driving iron: Ping G Crossover (2)
Shaft: Ping JZ Stiff

Irons: Ping i210 (4-UW)
Shaft: Ping JZ Stiff w/Cushin stepped 1 strong

Wedges: Ping Glide Forged (60 degrees)
Shaft: Ping JZ Stiff w/Cushin, stepped 1 strong

Putter: Ping Sigma 2 Fetch

Grips: Lamkin Crossline Full Cord 58 Rib (+2 wraps) on woods, Ping ID8 White 1/2 Cord (+2 wraps) on irons

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

 

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From a Fitter: Everything you need to know about wedge shafts

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This is such a dark corner of the golf industry that I truly believe needs a lot of work. Hopefully, this article can shed some light on wedge shafts for you.

I will mention some standards, explain some of my experience, and hopefully, help you make some good choices.

Linking back to the first article on aspects of a wedge that I target when fitting, I place a lot of weight on the style, bounce, grind, and loft/lie/length to get my wedge fitting started. As we move into shaft options, I look at crossing T’s and dotting I’s to ensure a player enjoys their new wedge setup.

We carry a bunch of shaft options built into different heads. As yet we do not have a consistent way to swap shafts in wedges during a session that still allows them to play at a reasonable swing weight and perform as we would like. Moving forward, I will be looking to explore this area to see if we can deliver better service and experience.

Generic standards for wedge shaft setup

  • Dynamic Gold “wedge flex”
  • Matching exactly the same shaft in your irons to your wedges
  • A slightly heavier shaft in your wedges
  • Putting an 8-iron shaft in your wedges
  • Using a wedge-specific shaft

During an iron fitting, we see a lot of variables in flight and feel, this is mainly because we use 6-irons as our demo clubs. When clients are hitting 6-iron shots, they are often looking for max carry, flight, and shot-shaping ability. This leads to hitting a lot of full swings and placing the shaft under a decent amount of load, therefore, we see some notable changes when we swap shafts. This will not show up as drastically in wedges as we are not always trying to hit the full shot. 

As we get into wedge fitting, I discuss with my clients in-depth what they use each wedge for, how far they hit them, what is the most common shot they play, what are the most common bad shots, how does the ball react on the green and what shots do they feel they need in the bag. Basically, trying to get a good overview of their game in a short period. In very few cases do players mention the ‘full shot’ lets them down? Often players say they are more comfortable hitting “softer shots” or 3/4 swings, this gives them the flight/shot that they require on a regular basis and the niche shots and consistency lets them down.

Logic here says to me, you probably do not want exactly the same shaft in the irons all the way down to the lob wedge when you are hitting soft shots 95 percent of the time. When I look at shaft specs, I am trying to build a shaft that can easily put up with the stress of a full shot and handle a softer shot without feeling blunt (for all clubs in the bag).

When I merge this process into wedges, the only wedge a “matching iron” shaft seems to be applicable (for the majority) is the gap wedge or the wedge that is predominantly a full-swing club. This is the club you hit full and maybe knock-down shots with, but you’re rarely trying to hit “flicky” spinning shots. (Those shots are why you also have a sand and/or lob wedge in the bag).

It would then make sense that if you are rarely hitting any full shots with your sand wedge or lob wedge, you probably want a softer golf shaft in those (as they are not trying to put up with your “flat out” swing), still ensuring the shaft does not feel ‘blunt’ or hard work to play around the greens with.

This is not a one size fits all theory, but I think a lot of players would have success even thinking about their wedge shaft layout in this way.

As an example: Personally, I am playing True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue 120g X100 flex iron shafts. I hit a lot of full shots with my 50 and 54, so I have chosen to play the DG 120TI X100 shaft exactly the same way in those two clubs. My 60-degree however, I rarely hit the full shot, so I feel need it a little softer in stiffness, but I need the weight to get my tempo correct and to give me more control to hit lower shots. For this club, I play the Dynamic Gold S400 Tour Issue. I chose this shaft as the profile is very close to my iron shaft but it is 13g heavier and has a slightly softer tip section, which I feel gives me a little better response.

Please see the S3 shaft profile comparison below

(I am very lucky to have the S3 shaft data, it gives me an apples-to-apples comparison of shaft profiles and weights and make wedge shaft selection a lot easier).

I also wanted to capture some data to highlight the difference wedge shafts have as simply as possible. Below is a graph showing a PGA pro’s shot grouping with a few shaft options. His 6-iron speed is about 94mph, and he has a sharp back-swing to down-swing ratio. This would put him at the quick end of people I fit. This generally means the player enjoys stiffer shafts, stiff style profiles, high swingweight, high total/shaft weight (and again not in all cases).

He tested three shafts all in the same wedge head, with the same length, loft, and lie.

Please see the grouping below

The three shafts tested were: Nippon Modus 105 Wedge specific, Dynamic Gold Wedge flex and Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400.

In no way am I trying to demonstrate the DG S400 is the best shaft for wedges, but in this group of data all that shows up is, the stiffest profile, heaviest shaft (of the test group) gave the player the tightest grouping for his 55-degree wedge shot. His explanation was that he felt the club’s position in the swing better and the strike through the turf was much more consistent, producing more consistent land zones with the DG S400. This small test shows that the wedge shaft alone has an impact even for a skilled golfer.

There are however always exceptions to theories (especially in golf!)

When I have a player using, for example, C-Taper 130 X or Dynamic Gold X100 in their irons it is tough to find a profile that matches closely that is heavier and not any stiffer. In these cases, I tend to have them play the same shaft all the way down to their LW, but I try to increase swing weight and decrease FM in the niche shot wedges (SW and LW). This can just mean adding head weight to soften the shaft a little, or sometimes soft-stepping the product to get some ‘feel’ back. 

The key take-away points

  • Think about the shots you play with your wedges most and how hard you hit them
  • Think about linking your shafts to your irons, but they do not always have to match
  • Test options and measure: grouping, turf interaction and flight consistency
  • Try and break down if the ‘”feel” of stiffness or weight help or hinder you making a consistent swing/strike
  • Don’t just settle with the shaft the wedges come with… unless they match in with your setup!

Getting all the information in one article is always tough, and I hate generalizing, so feel free to shoot me some questions—I like to try to help and also hear your experience and ideas when I can!

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