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Wanted to share some thoughts about the UST Mamiya VTS line of shafts. I have been playing around with them, as well as having other top am’s around me try for the past several months.

I always like to give things some time before saying a lot about it, so that new/different/honeymoon period can pass, and a longer term performance judgement can be made.

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By now, I believe many out there know the concept of the VTS line of shafts, same profile, same weight, with the only variable being the torque rating.
Black lowest at 2.5*
Silver middle at 3.5*
Red highest at 4.5*
The concept, and what I find to be the reality, is that once a golfer finds the torque he/she likes the feel of best, they will hit it more consistent, pick up a little swing speed, and in turn a bit of ball speed via better, more confident swings…….because the SHAFT FEELS RIGHT.

One thing I decided not to do in this review was put up a bunch of launch monitor numbers, although I did ad some basic Trackman readings at end. I want to emphasize that the numbers will be different for each person, each swing style, based on how the shaft feels……which to me is awesome, the exact concept this line of variable torque shafts was trying to achieve. Please, get to a fitter where you can test all 3 torques, you may be shocked by which you hit the best. But for reference, plenty of time was spent on Trackman, ForeSight, as well as on course.

First, a few pics:

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COSMETICS:
Awesome! I am a fan of the graphics, noticeable, but not overdone. And the pearl white is phenomenal, love the pearl white, I like they went this route instead of just a flat white. The shades of red chosen are perfect, and pop well off the pearl white. When in the playing position, there are no distractions, and the graphics are clean and well laid out. The side of the shaft that features the “ProForce”, “VTS”, and the weight and flex circle is clean and well done as well.

FEEL:
Before diving into specific examples of feedback, let me start by saying, very smooth, very stable. I always have used the phrase “Diamana smooth” based on my past use of Blue Board, Kai’li, etc., these VTS shafts fit that category, they are a great feeling golf shaft, no sense of anything but smooth in them. Great feel!

Kind of a personal opinion category, so I will share mine. I will start with an example that came about when I first started telling a local better golfer about the shaft. When you hear the word “ProForce” certain things may come to mind. Stability, consistent performance, tight, low torque, etc. To this individual, he always thought ProForce line shafts, including the V2, were harsh, unresponsive, or not smooth enough for his liking. Knowing that he is a high spin/high launch guy, smoother transition, and prefers a smoother feeling, lighter weight X-flex shaft, I got him a VTS Red 6X to try in his driver. He was a bit hesitant, but gave it a go………LOVES IT. Not only did it do a fantastic job at flattening his flight and lowering his spin, it gave him the smooth feel he was after. The best part, for a guy that doesn’t like a “tight” or “unresponsive” feeling shaft, by going to the RED version, he got all the feel he wanted, and wasn’t locked into a low torque design. Continued playing it, and hasn’t come out of his driver yet, and he has been through a few this year before the VTS! I play a decent amount of golf with this person, and out of all the shafts I have seen him hit in the same club head, he hits his VTS Red 6X noticeably farther than anything I have personally seen the last few years.

Me personally, I have a Red, Silver, and Black 7X all installed the same, for a good head to head comparison. The feel differences are very noticeable to me, I can tell the Black is tighter and lower torque, I can tell the Red has a higher torque value than most driver shafts I have ever tried / played, which I am actually fond of, just makes it feel so smooth, and in reality helps with swing tempo at times. And the Silver is perfectly in the middle, very smooth with more feel than the Black.
Launch and spin for me varied a bit throughout the line, and what I personally found is that the feel the torque provides, had a majority of the impact on how I swung the club, and delivered the club face to the ball, as the sensation of feel had me swinging each torque slightly different…..without trying to do so. Funny thing is, spec wise, most, including myself would probably hand me the Black 7X first…..because of feel, I found myself trying to load the shaft a bit harder than normal, causing a slight over the top and slightly steep move, hence I launched the black the highest with the most spin…..on paper, it should be the lowest on each. I loved the feel of the Silver and Red, and can get away with playing either….smooth, responsive, and very stable. And although they feature higher torque, I hit them straighter. My ball speed was 2-4 MPH higher with Red and Silver than with the Black.

Gave a short swing, heavy loader, very fast transition guy the 3 to try……pounded all 3 quite well, but, because of his swing style and sense of feel, he loved the Black, and because he felt like he could just load it as hard as he wanted, he increased ball speed over the Silver and Red, which he had the sensation he needed to “hold on to” through the swing, because of how smooth they were, this caused a slower swing speed, and slight blocks and fades because he wasn’t releasing through the ball. The Black won him over, and he is after one now, as he preferred it over his current gamer shaft.

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PERFORMANCE:
Once the right torque is identified to match the individuals feel preference, the shaft provides a mid/low trajectory, lower spin type ball flight. When swinging the wrong torque for you, the launch and spin results will vary greatly from what I have seen. Once again, the importance is matching the feel to the person. Once that right feel is found, everyone’s ball speed turned out to be very impressive when comparing to their various high end gamers. Again, demonstrates how much better they were swinging when they found the right torque/feel. Many that tried are waiting for them to become available so they can buy one and change.
With a proper fitting to identify the right flex, the right weight, the right torque, and then the proper installation (tipping, length, etc.) it is hard not to be able to fit a wide range of players and needs into this line.

All right, what can performance be without a little launch monitor data, here is a sample from 7-9 weeks ago.

Outdoor on Trackman using TaylorMade Penta TP balls. About 76 degrees outside in a slight into and right to left wind.

My current gamer shaft (average taken from collection of shots):
Ball Speed: 168.8 MPH
Launch: 10.7
Spin: 2,580 RPM

VTS Shafts for ME
Ball Speed:
RED=171.2
SILVER=170.2
BLACK=167.5

Launch:
RED=11.1
SILVER=12.7
BLACK=12.6

Spin:
RED=2,657
SILVER=2,448
BLACK=3,173

Remember, this is how they worked for my swing based off of what I was feeling. But it is clear, I was getting more ball speed and more distance potential with the VTS Red and Silver than my season long gamer……

But, I have to admit, VERY pumped and impressed, as I really dialed in the fitting on my gamer, the VTS shafts came along and beat it!

All-in-all, VERY impressed, and I suggest everyone gives a proper torque fitting a try if deciding to go with the VTS. I also suggest comparing the VTS to whatever else it is you are thinking about, as it is a great performer. I am a big fan of the entire concept of not being locked into one “feel” on a particular shaft, a great feature and added fitting benefit to help golfers out!

:good: Thumbs up from me on this line of shafts, and the entire “Variable Torque” design.

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UST Mamiya Proforce VTS- Proforce VTS shaft is the first shaft ever developed that emphasizes Torque in the fitting process. Historically, most players have been fit traditionally only using weight and flex. Although this has worked well in the past, Proforce VTS with 3-D fitting technology brings shaft fitting to an entirely different level.

Over the past 4 years, UST Mamiya engineers spent hundreds of hours designing shafts, and testing hundreds of golfers in order to find out what aspects of shafts are the most important to performance. The results led to the development of the Proforce VTS. UST Mamiya engineers developed a matrix of shafts of different weights (57-97 grams), and flexes (A, R, S, X) that are typically found in shaft product lines. But UST Mamiya went one step further by adding torque as the third dimension in the shaft matrix. Within a given weight and flex (e.g. 67 gram S-flex), there are 3 separate torque shafts that allow you to fine tune the shaft performance to each golfers unique Swing DNA.

UST Mamiya has found that through the unique 3-D fitting process, golfers can realize an increase in ball speed of 2 mph, with some golfers seeing up to 6 mph increase in ball speed.

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  1. Hamish

    Mar 22, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Playing a VTS Silver 6 SX @105mph fast tempo. Its a great fit
    More shaft companies need to make a SX shaft that the majority of recreational golfers require this flex. I wish DG would intro a SX Steel
    If you swing 102-107 look for a SX

  2. birdiexris

    Mar 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Something left out of this….. VTS is one of the only lines where they actually have an SX flex. It works well for me because i fall into this category. They have a 1/2 step shaft between stiff and X (Stiff is too little, and X doesn’t allow me to load enough and use the graphite to it’s full potential). Unbelievable and soooooo nice. I picked up 6mph in ball speed and it’s like butter with my swing. It’s personal preference, but it’s worth noting – especially if you’re trying to keep swingweight specs in order and don’t want to go heavier or lighter in the shaft.

  3. JEFF

    Jan 16, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    I am playing a Graphalloy Red stiff in a Ping I20 9.5. The thing is 46” and weighs in at D10. I am averaging around 270. I have gained a ton more control but lost some distance from what I am sure in the swing weight. I am looking at these UST shafts. Any suggestions on going lighter but maintaining the lower flight and especially the control. I would love another 10 yards!

    • Joe Golfer

      Mar 1, 2013 at 2:27 am

      That’s a heavy swingweight (D10) even at 46″ in length.
      If you like the shaft, perhaps a counterweight in the butt of the shaft would help.
      Jack Nicklaus is currently touting a new grip that has this feature built into it, as he counterweighted his irons during his playing days, but any decent pro shop can counterweight your club, perhaps trying something in the range of 12-16 grams of weight under the grip. They have pre-made counterweights nowadays, such as the Tour Lock Pro, which can be viewed in component catalogs like Golfworks.
      The actual swingweight can be determined prior to installing the counterweight, and then a decision can be made on which weight to try, as there’s quite a range of different weights to choose from.

      • JEFF

        Mar 9, 2013 at 12:37 am

        Thanks for the tips. My club guru made that same suggestion. Instead we elected to cut an inch off the butt and it lost 5 grams of weight. Now all I do is hook the thing and it spins like a pissed off pin wheel! Since my last post, I have switched over to the Ping Anser driver 9.5 with the Diamana Ahina stiff, 1/2” tipped. I’m actually getting exactly what I was looking for and with lower spin . My average spin rate was 2300 rps with a 256 carry. So far in my 30 + years of playing, this seems to be as good and as long a driver as I have ever used. I just switched to the Anser 3 wood to go with it. It was a tough separation letting my 15* I20 with the VS High Launch X go away, especially since they don’t produce that shaft anymore. So far so good with the stock Ping shaft. All this 51 year old can say is, “thank you technology!”

    • Frank Garrett

      Dec 15, 2013 at 8:13 am

      Go up on loft

  4. Jennings

    Oct 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    I played this shaft in the black version, absolutely loved it. Only reason its not still in the bag is for it didnt work when i changed to a new clubhead and it just wasnt a good combination. I am thinking about pulling it from the old driver to put it in my 3 wood. No complaints what so ever. Highly recommended. It has great feel and you can feel the shaft kick yet it still feels stable.

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Equipment is accurate as of the 2018 Honda Classic (2/20/2018).

Driver: Titleist 917D2 (9.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Orange CK 60TX

3 Wood: Titleist 917F2 (16.5 degrees)
Shaft: Matrix Ozik TP7HDe 7X

Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 (21 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Tour Green ATX85H TX

Irons: Titleist 716 T-MB (4), Titleist 718 AP2 (5-PW)
Shaft: Project X LZ 130 7.0

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7 (52-12F, 56-14F, 60-04L)
Shaft: Project X LZ 7.0 (52), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 (56, 60)

Putter: EvnRoll Tour ER
Grip: Odyssey Pistol

Putter: Rife Antigua Island Series
Grip: Odyssey Pistol

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

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From our featured image of Rory McIlroy putting in a different kind of work on the range in the pre-dawn hours of Wednesday morning, to shots of Tiger Woods’ similarly early pre-pro-am range work, to some intriguing shots Patrick Reed’s prototype Bettinardi putter, GolfWRX has plenty of fantastic photo content from PGA National.

Here are some of the best shots from Wednesday.

Tiger Woods at work prior to his crack-of-dawn pro-am tee time. Gentleman in the foreground: You do know that as the sun has not yet risen, you do not need a hat to aggressively combat its rays, right?

“My feet do not look like that at impact.”

All eyes on the Big Cat…except those focused on the live video on their cell phone screens…

Let’s take a closer look at Patrick Reed’s yardage book cover. Yep. As expected.

Do you think these two ever talk?

It looks like Captain Furyk already has some pre-Ryder Cup swag in the form of a putter cover.

If you’ve ever wondered why Rickie Fowler selected these interesting locations for his tattoos, this may be the answer: Visible when he holds his finish.

We’ve got a Pistol Pete sighting!

Patrick Reed’s droolworthy Bettinardi Dass prototype.

Fun fact: Wedges double as magnetic putter cover holders, as Jon Curran illustrates here. Healthy application of lead tape, as well, from the tour’s resident graffiti artist.

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Review: FlightScope Mevo

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The Mevo is a useful practice tool for amateur golfers and represents a step forward from previous offerings on the market. It allows golfers to practice indoors or outdoors and provides club speed, ball speed, smash factor, launch angle, spin rate, carry distance and flight time.

It also has a video capture mode that will overlay swing videos with the swing data of a specific swing. It is limited in its capabilities and its accuracy, though, which golfers should expect at this price point. All in all, it’s well worth the $499 price tag if you understand what you’re getting.

The Full Review

The FlightScope Mevo is a launch monitor powered by 3D Doppler radar. With a retail price of $499, it is obviously aimed to reach the end consumer as opposed to PGA professionals and club fitters.

The Mevo device itself is tiny. Like, really tiny. It measures 3.5-inches wide, 2.8-inches tall and 1.2-inches deep. In terms of everyday products, it’s roughly the size of an Altoids tin. It’s very easy to find room for it in your golf bag, and the vast majority of people at the range you may be practicing at won’t even notice it’s there. Apart from the Mevo itself, in the box you get a quick start guide, a charging cable, a carrying pouch, and some metallic stickers… more on those later. It has a rechargeable internal battery that reaches a full charge in about two hours and lasts for about four hours when fully charged.

As far as software goes, the Mevo pairs with the Mevo Golf app on your iOS or Android device. The app is free to download and does not require any subscription fees (unless you want to store and view videos of your swing online as opposed to using the memory on your device). The app is very easy to use even for those who aren’t tech savvy. Make sure you’re using the most current version of the firmware for the best results, though (I did experience some glitches at first until I did so). The settings menu does have an option to manually force firmware writing, but updates should happen automatically when you start using the device.

Moving through the menus, beginning sessions, editing shots (good for adding notes on things like strike location or wind) are all very easy. Video mode did give me fits the first time I used it, though, as it was impossible to maintain my connection between my phone and the Mevo while having the phone in the right location to capture video properly. The only way I could achieve this was by setting the Mevo as far back from strike location as the device would allow. Just something to keep in mind if you find you’re having troubles with video mode.

Screenshot of video capture mode with the FlightScope Mevo

Using the Mevo

When setting up the Mevo, it needs to be placed between 4-7 feet behind the golf ball, level with the playing surface and pointed down the target line. The distance you place the Mevo behind the ball does need to be entered into the settings menu before starting your session. While we’re on that subject, before hitting balls, you do need to select between indoor, outdoor, and pitching (ball flight less than 20 yards) modes, input your altitude and select video or data mode depending on if you want to pair your data with videos of each swing or just see the data by itself. You can also edit the available clubs to be monitored, as you will have to tell the Mevo which club you’re using at any point in time to get the best results. Once you get that far, you’re pretty much off to the races.

Testing the Mevo

I tested the FlightScope Mevo with Brad Bachand at Man O’ War Golf Center in Lexington, Kentucky. Brad is a member of the PGA and has received numerous awards for golf instruction and club fitting. I wanted to put the Mevo against the best device FlightScope has to offer and, luckily, Brad does use his $15,000 FlightScope X3 daily. We had both the FlightScope Mevo and Brad’s FlightScope X3 set up simultaneously, so the numbers gathered from the two devices were generated from the exact same strikes. Brad also set up the two devices and did all of the ball striking just to maximize our chances for success.

The day of our outdoor session was roughly 22 degrees Fahrenheit. There was some wind on that day (mostly right to left), but it wasn’t a major factor. Our setup is pictured below.

Outdoor testing setup with FlightScope X3 (foreground) and Mevo

The results of our outdoor testing are shown below. The testing was conducted with range balls, and we did use the metallic stickers. The range balls used across all the testing were all consistently the same brand. Man O’ War buys all new range balls once a year and these had been used all throughout 2017.  The 2018 batch had not yet been purchased at the time that testing was conducted.

Raw outdoor data captured with range balls including metallic stickers. Mevo data (blue) and X3 data (orange) were both generated from the same exact shots.

You’ll notice some peculiar data in the sand wedge spin category. To be honest, I don’t fully know what contributed to the X3 measuring such low values. While the Mevo’s sand wedge spin numbers seem more believable, you could visibly see that the X3 was much more accurate on carry distance. Below is a quick summary of the percent differences between each of the parameters as presented by the Mevo and the X3 in our outdoor session when separated out for each club. As previously mentioned, though, take sand wedge spin with a grain of salt.

Table showing the percent difference of each parameter between Mevo and X3 grouped by club (outdoor testing).

The first thing we noticed was that the Mevo displays its numbers while the golf ball is still in midair, so it was clear that it wasn’t watching the golf ball the entire time like the X3. According to the Mevo website, carry distance, height and flight time are all calculated while club speed, ball speed, launch angle and spin rate are measured. As for the accuracy of the measured parameters, the Mevo’s strength is ball speed. The accuracy of the other measured ball parameters (launch angle and spin rate) is questionable depending on certain factors (quality of strike, moisture on the clubface and ball, quality of ball, etc). I would say it ranges between “good” or “very good” and “disappointing” with most strikes being categorized as “just okay.”

As for the calculated parameters of carry distance, height and time, those vary a decent amount. Obviously, when the measurements of the three inputs become less accurate, the three outputs will become less accurate as a result. Furthermore, according to FlightScope, the Mevo’s calculations are not accounting for things like temperature, humidity, and wind. The company has also stated, though, that future updates will likely adjust for these parameters by using location services through the app.

Now, let’s talk about those metallic stickers. According to the quick start guide, the Mevo needs a sticker on every golf ball you hit, and before you hit each ball, the ball needs to be placed such that the sticker is facing the target. It goes without saying that it doesn’t sound like a whole lot of fun to spend time putting those stickers on every ball, let alone balls that will never come back to you if you’re at a public driving range. Obviously, people are going to want to avoid using the stickers if they can, so do they really matter? Below is a table of data showing the percent difference between the Mevo’s data and the X3’s data of what we collected outdoors with a driver and range balls with and without the use of the stickers.

Table showing how the percent difference of each parameter changes between Mevo and X3 when you use the metallic stickers and when you don’t

The FlightScope website says that the metallic stickers “are needed in order for the Mevo to accurately measure ball spin.” We observed pretty much the same as shown in the table above. The website also states they are working on alternative solutions to stickers (possibly a metallic sharpie), which I think is wise.

Another thing we thought would be worth testing is the impact of different golf balls. Below is a table of data showing the percent difference between the Mevo’s data and the X3’s data of what we collected outdoors with a driver and range balls as compared to Pro V1’s. All of this data was collected using the metallic stickers.

Table showing how the percent difference of each parameter changes between Mevo and X3 when you switch from range balls to Pro V1’s

As shown above, the data gets much closer virtually across the board when you use better quality golf balls. Just something else to keep in mind when using the Mevo.

Indoor testing requires 8 feet of ball flight (impact zone to hitting net), which was no problem for us. Our setup is pictured below. All of the indoor testing was conducted with Titleist Pro V1 golf balls using the metallic stickers.

Indoor testing setup with FlightScope X3 (foreground) and Mevo

The results of our indoor session are shown below.

Raw indoor data captured with Pro V1’s including metallic stickers. Mevo data (blue) and X3 data (orange) were both generated from the same exact shots.

Below is a quick summary of the percent differences between each of the parameters as presented by the Mevo and the X3 in our indoor session when separated out for each club.

Table showing the percent difference of each parameter between Mevo and X3 grouped by club (indoor testing)

On the whole, the data got much closer together between the two devices in our indoor session. I would think a lot of that can be attributed to the use of quality golf balls and to removing outdoor factors like wind and temperature (tying into my previous comment above).

As far as overall observations between all sessions, the most striking thing was that the Mevo consistently gets more accurate when you hit really good, straight shots. When you hit bad shots, or if you hit a fade or a draw, it gets less and less accurate.

The last parameter to address is club speed, which came in around 5 percent different on average between the Mevo and X3 based on all of the shots recorded. The Mevo was most accurate with the driver at 2.1 percent different from the X3 over all strikes and it was the least accurate with sand wedge by far. Obviously, smash factor accuracy will follow club speed for the most part since ball speed is quite accurate. Over every shot we observed, the percent difference on ball speed was 1.2 percent on average between the Mevo and the X3. Again, the Mevo was least accurate with sand wedges. If I remove all sand wedge shots from the data, the average percent difference changes from 1.2 percent to 0.7 percent, which is very, very respectable.

When it comes to the different clubs used, the Mevo was by far most accurate with mid irons. I confirmed this with on-course testing on a relatively flat 170-yard par-3 as well. Carry distances in that case were within 1-2 yards on most shots (mostly related to quality of strike). With the driver, the Mevo was reasonably close, but I would also describe it as generous. It almost always missed by telling me that launch angle was higher, spin rate was lower and carry distance was farther than the X3. Generally speaking, the Mevo overestimated our driver carries by about 5 percent. Lastly, the Mevo really did not like sand wedges at all. Especially considering those shots were short enough that you could visibly see how far off the Mevo was with its carry distance. Being 10 yards off on a 90 yard shot was disappointing.

Conclusion

The Mevo is a really good product if you understand what you’re getting when you buy it. Although the data isn’t good enough for a PGA professional, it’s still a useful tool that gives amateurs reasonable feedback while practicing. It’s also a fair amount more accurate than similar products in its price range, and I think it could become even better with firmware updates as Flightscope improves upon its product.

This is a much welcomed and very promising step forward in consumer launch monitors, and the Mevo is definitely worth a look if you’re in the market for one.

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