Titleist AP2 Forged 712 Review

by   |   July 29, 2012
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Titleist AP2 Forged 712 Review GolfWRX
Performance
Playability
Feel/Sound
Looks

Summary: Ever watch golf on TV? You will see most of the Titleist staffers gaming these. Why? Why not. Players looks with technology that actually works. Bang on Titlist. Bravo!

5

Bang on!


Pros: Soft feeling, great to look at, perfect spin and forgiveness in a players body. Considered “Game Changers” to many top club fitters interviewed. One of the most popular models for Titleist Tour Players and well as top players.

Cons:
Finish of the satin could be improved and these irons are not cheap.

Bottom Line: We have a winner with the 712 AP2′s. These AP2 irons have the appeal and look of a players club. Some tour players as well as top club fitter we have talked to say the AP2 chassis is the perfect size and shape.

Technology packed multi material construction allows the Titleist engineers the ability to move might to the perimeter and move the center of gravity that only game improvement irons could do in the past. Bravo Titleist for designing and selling a premium iron with nothing spared to save costs.

While I think these will appeal to a lot of golfers, I don’t think they are a GI club by any means.

They aren’t going to make a bad swing good, and a chunky shot is still a chunky shot. What they will do is, allow you to sneak away with a slight miss hit and not bat an eye. I’m sold on them, and can’t wait to use them more.

Full Review

The time has finally come, my 712 have arrived, and I was able to get out give them a quick test drive.

Background: I played a combo set of 710 CB/MB’s last season. Not the greatest ball striker, but I’m not bad. I play to a mid/high single digit. Really enjoyed this set up, and thought it was about as close to perfect for me. 3-5 Cavity back, 6-PW in the MB. Love the set up, and despite the try to change, I can’t stand a huge top line, and a chunky over weight looking club.

The set up: I decided on a 4-PW set, and will order the 3-iron later if I decide to go that route perhaps.

4-PW 712 AP2
Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
Standard length
2* Flat lie
D3 Swing weight
Lamkin PP 3 Gen grips

The low down and dirty

TItleist this year, went about trying to tweak the AP2 series a good bit. The 710′s were without a doubt a hit for Titleist, and while I didn’t play them, who couldn’t notice the love everywhere you looked. Tours abound, and even your local club.

While it was always geared to be a “players” club, it wasn’t quite received as that by some. Stuck in a middle of the road between a players CB/GI type of world. Would launch high, spin more, and in the end left many yearning for a lower stronger flight, and more consistent ball speeds from the face. Many also felt although touted as “forged” they really lacked that feel of a forged club.

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Titleist heard that, and decided to work on it. Enter the 712 line up. Titleist has this to say about them:

AP2 irons are technically advanced blades that provide increased forgiveness without sacrificing shot workability while combining traditional blade length and sole width with a more efficient multi-material weight distribution.

They claim they are 7% more forgiving, with no loss of workability.

Sounds like some decent claims, but when it gets down to it, who will really be able to see that.

They split the weight in the bottom of the club, pushed it towards the toe and the heel, and with this, allowed them to make the club easy to work, yet still offer the forgiving technology they have in them, without making it launch any higher.

We took the 712′s out, very windy day, with gusts around 10-15mph, around 50*, and pretty damp conditions from previous rain.

Looks

First thing I noticed is, that they set up similar to my 710 combo set. Although you can’t say they are AS small, they are pretty close. Very similar blade length, which is the easiest to notice at first. Offset was very close. The AP2′s have roughly the same. According to the specs, the 7 iron has the same offset as the 710 AP2, and .01 mm MORE than the MB’s. Close, like I said.

The top line is slightly larger than the MB, but from address looks much thinner, and very close as well.

From address, I love these. Very clean, no visual of the cavity, nice square look. Similar to what I’m use to looking at. No hint of all the tech packed away in them.

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The soles on the clubs have also been thinned down from the previous model. They have a nice blunted leading edge, less bounce and with that, they interact with the turf very well. I can have a steep swing and I take long heavy divots with them. These work perfect for me. No digging, despite the wetter conditions I played in. No trouble sending off a nice divot with the swing and it was effortless to do so.

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Trajectory

I don’t naturally hit the ball that high. I’m not a low ball hitter by any means, but I’d say close to low/medium trajectory, generally with a decent bit of spin. With my CB/MB combo, I LOVED the flight. Very strong flight, enough to hold greens with a 5-6 iron consistently. I could stand to raise my flight, but honestly don’t care too.

With the AP2′s my flight is slightly higher. This may be a turn off to many, but it is compared to a muscle back. It’s going to be higher. It’s not much higher though. I’d suspect that most won’t notice them to launch much higher than what they might be using. Very flat flight, and doesn’t seem to over spin and fall steep. The wind gusting was interesting, I was able to flight them down and still maintain my distances with them like I could the combo set. Impressed as this I think is the reason many feel they can’t deal with a higher flight. No shooting up in the wind and falling down.

I was able to hold greens even with a 4 iron, and have them land and stop within 5 feet of my pitch mark. Nice high strong flight! I loved it!

Lofts are the same as what I’ve been using, and aren’t the juiced up strong lofts. I found myself to have roughly the same yardages, although I think I’m maybe a bit longer due to hitting them better from a more current fitting. 8 iron was flying around 155-160 yards.

So how forgiving are they?: This is the portion that blows me away. Maybe I’m not used to a forgiving iron. Maybe I needed it all along, but WOW. I tend to have a slight flip at impact as my miss. A pull, perhaps a nasty hook. With that comes a thin shot at times. My playing partner when I hit the new clubs today, didn’t notice I had new clubs. From trajectory to sound, it was all he knew, so it was funny to hear him comment on how “flush” I was hitting it today. I hit a thin PW that still flew my yardage, althought a bit short. Hit the green and spun BACK.

Hit a few off the toe, and while a back swing is bad, these still helped fly decently. Low on the face was still slightly okay, and high on the face was fine. Amazed with them, but again, could be the fact I haven’t used anything like this since my TM 09′ TP’s.

I am very impressed with the amount of forgiveness in them. Is there 7% more? I can’t tell. But what I do know is, that they are indeed really forgiving. I mis-hit them and I still didn’t have a terrible shot. I was able to get away with a decent bit and it was fun to be able to do so. I could also tell WHEN I hit it bad, even though the flight might have been lower, or higher, I could feel the mis hit, which is again, nice to be able to discern when that happens.

Workability

Can’t say there is anything missing here. I could make them do everything I could with my 710 CB/MB’s and while I’m not big on working it a lot, I could do it easily. High or low, draw or cut. It was all simple to do, and even a simple punch shot was easy to flight low and hit well.

Bottom Line

I think they have a winner with the 712 AP2′s. I love TItleist stuff, and while I could have gone another season or two with 710′s, I’m glad I switched. I think the fact that they were able to make a club as forgiving as it is, with the appeal and look of a players club is great. While I think these will appeal to a lot of golfers, I don’t think they are a GI club by any means. They aren’t going to make a bad swing good, and a chunky shot is still a chunky shot. What they will do is, allow you to sneak away with a slight miss hit and not bat an eye. I’m sold on them, and can’t wait to use them more.

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21 Comments

  1. Andrew

    February 11, 2014 at 3:07 am

    Just bought these ap2′s and on a scale of 1-10 ten being amazing… they are an 11!! feel and look of these irons are just unexplainable.

  2. cole brennecke

    June 30, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    I got these irons custom fitted to me and I can honestly say they are the best clubs I have ever hit. They feel great and even a miss-hit the ball goes still where I want it to. I have also gained quite a bit of distance with these irons. I am hitting the ball much longer and straighter, I don’t really even hit my driver or woods anymore because I just hit my 4 iron off the tee 260-280 depending on the shape of the shot I put on it. I recommend these clubs to anybody and everybody of all handicaps. only con- they aren’t cheap.

    • Joel

      November 14, 2013 at 7:36 pm

      Yeah you don’t. 280 4 iron, hahahahaha

    • Nick

      January 21, 2014 at 8:18 pm

      Average distance for driver on the PGA tour is around 289. So………

    • Romando

      September 22, 2014 at 5:41 pm

      Probably meant meters?

  3. Daryl Abueva

    February 4, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    I just got my AP2 712 asian series yesterday with NS PRO Shaft 3-PW. It took me a while before deciding to buy it. Finally, after 12 years of using a Honma LB-280 I was able to find an equally forgiving if not better clubs that fits me.

  4. taha hamdan

    January 14, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Hye, I just wanf to ask with the many story of buying not the original set, how to differentiate the original Titleist set and the imitation one. Tqi

  5. Red Dog

    January 2, 2013 at 2:21 am

    I,since March 2012 own AP2 712.I find them soft feeling, forgiving although the head size is smaller than most. When I play in wind I am concious of the flight and adjust my stance accordingly as they can get taken by the wind a bit, but then I spose so can any club.I really love them,Every round gives me several shots that any touring pro would be proud of .They are totally workable ,Look pure at address,and give backspin like Ive not had before.I think the slight bit of help I get from the tungsten inserts low and stuff really helps.My iron plays always been a strong point and these are trully good tools.Looks great , feels great, Touch of help down there. All Good for me.

  6. Dom

    December 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Playing a set of 845′s.. Yes, very old. Finally getting a new set. Have my mind set on these. Hoping to find some forgiveness to get my handicap firmly in single digits (now playing to a 9-12). Can someone advise as to what I can really expect as far as “forgiveness”? and will this act as a GI for me?

  7. Devin

    December 14, 2012 at 12:29 am

    I play MP33 blades currently, and am looking to finally buy a new set. I’m going to get a new set fitted and am excited. I’ll try a bunch, but I have a feeling these are the ones I’ll come home with. Does anyone know how they compare to MP33′s from Mizuno?

  8. Dennis

    November 18, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Played Titleist 690.mb and when I switched to the 735.cm, I felt my iron buying days were over. I was very happy with them. Everytime I went to the golf store, I would look at woods and putters, but never irons. A bud of mine pick-up a set of the 712 AP2s @ a month ago. One day while playing, I was faced with a 195 yard approach shot into an elevated green, 1.5 to 2 club headwind, creek in front with greenside bunkers left and right. I grabbed my 3h (909 21*) to play the shot. However, my bud had been raving the entire day about his new “sticks”–he previously played the 735s and Cobra Carbon CBs–so I put back my 3h and asked to try his 3i. I told him that if I get that shot anywhere on the green, I’m buying a set. Stuck it on the green 15′ from the flag. Just picked up my fitted 712 AP2s yesterday…

  9. Jordan

    October 25, 2012 at 8:58 am

    The AP2′s are gods gift to golf! Lol

    I played the Ping i20 before these, and the Original AP2 before that. Both were great irons. Felt very good, but it was hard to take a divot and the i20′s spun way too much for me. So I purchased the 712 AP2 w/ KBS C-Tapers 4-PW with a 2* upright bend. It’s going to be hard not playing with these for the rest of my golf days! I love them! Easy to take a nice divot, plenty of spin, and feel amazing!! Thanks!

  10. DON

    October 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    IM NOT SURE I SEE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 710 AND 712. ANY NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE?

  11. JOH

    October 19, 2012 at 8:34 am

    I too am interested in a comparison of the AP1′s and the AP2′s. Appreciate any feedback.

  12. Tim

    September 24, 2012 at 3:51 am

    Great evaluation! I play off 15 (short game is my killer) with 10yr old Ben Hogan Apex plus irons. Looking at AP1s or AP2s. Have you done a report on the AP 1 and as a fairly consistent ball striker, which should i choose? Many thanks

  13. Kasper

    August 17, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Thanks a lot for a very comprehensive review. I am currently playing Wilson fg 59, and must admit that I am not playing/practicing enough to hit the ball consistently. So i am looking at the ap2 712 and razr x and similar at the moment, how would you compare the ap2 to its peers?
    Thanks in advance

    Kasper

  14. Sean Cassidy

    August 14, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    To the author… You mentioned “I haven’t used anything like this since my TM 09? TP’s”.

    I’m still playing those clubs and currently looking around at options for the next set of irons to play – I’m going to wait until the new Ansers come out, and compare them, the 712′s, Razr X forged and Razr X tour irons.

    I’m interested in hearing your feedback on the 09 TP’s vs your current 712′s, and any of the other irons I mentioned. I’ll go and get fitted, but just doing some initial research and hearing what other players have to say.

    Cheers

    Sean

  15. Dano

    June 19, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    I purchased these AP3 712 irons 5-PW at my clubs pro shop. I practiced with a 6 iron demo club before deciding to spend the dollars on the set. I was not disappointed at all. The irons are all they are advertised to be and more. Very forgiving and sweet hitting irons. I previously have played Hogans and Pings. These are far and away better designed to help strike the ball with the same results each time and long. My handicap goes up and down from 8-12. Two weeks after playing these irons it went to a 10 and should drop again this week. Buy these clubs and you won’t be disappointed in the performance and your game will inprove.

  16. sabres13

    May 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    I just bought these irons last week and I can vouch for how great they feel and look. The ball feels so sweet off the face on a well struck shot

    • Jay Morris

      August 13, 2013 at 3:50 pm

      I am in the market for a set but frankly considering the AP2 714′s are almost here now with the hype of Jason Dufner winning with the AP2 714′s likely launching sooner rather than later, I suggest you wait until the 714′s come out and the ridiculous price of $1099 comes down on the AP2 712′s.

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