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Details on the Titleist 913 D2 Dot driver: It’s for Dufner

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Titleist 913 D2 Dot 600

Titleist’s 913 D2 “Dot” driver was added to the USGA’s list of conforming driver heads this week, creating a lot of buzz in our  in the forums.

Who is it for? What’s different about it? Will it come to retail?

According to Chris McGinley, the prototype driver was made for Titleist Staff Member Jason Dufner, who has continued to use the company’s three-year-old 910 D2 driver because of its higher launch and spin characteristics, which suit him better than Titleist’s lower spinning 913 drivers.

Dufner’s 910 D2 driver has 9.5 degrees of loft. Click here to see the specs of the other 13 clubs in his bag.

 

McGinley said that Dufner was interested in switching to a 913 driver because of the faster ball speeds the new models can provide. That’s why prior to creating the 913 D2 Dot driver, Dufner tested a 913 D3 driver with 10.5 degrees of loft and modified internal weighting that moved the center of gravity lower and more forward in the head. He also tested a 913 D2 with 9.5 degrees of loft with a CG that was higher and deeper in the head.

According to McGinley, neither driver was a fit for Dufner, which is why the company decided to create the Dot driver. McGinley said that the Dot head is exactly the same as the retail 913 D2 driver, except that it has 0.5-degrees more loft and a slightly higher, deeper CG to give Dufner a higher launch and more spin. Because of the extra 0.5 degrees of loft (10 degrees instead of 9.5), Titleist had to resubmit the driver to the USGA to be approved for tournament play.

At this time, McGinley said that there are no are no plans for the Dot driver to be tested by anyone besides Dufner.

Dufner is currently ranked No. 13 on the FedExCup points list, and is scheduled to play in next week’s BMW Championship, the third round of the PGA Tour Playoffs. We’ll keep an eye on what driver he brings to the tee.

Click here to read the ongoing discussion in the forums about the 913 D2 Dot driver and Cleveland’s new 588 drivers.

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  1. Mike

    Sep 7, 2013 at 7:51 am

    This logic is like that scene from spinal tap. We’re louder because most amps only go up to 10′ while our goes up to 11… So we’re louder by 1…..

  2. Duncan

    Sep 6, 2013 at 9:18 am

    “Because of the extra 0.5 degrees of loft (10 degrees instead of 9.5), Titleist had to resubmit the driver to the USGA to be approved for tournament play.”
    This doesn’t make a lot of sense. A typical manufacturing tolerance would be +/- 1 degree of loft so there should be 913D2s in play marked at 9.5 degrees of loft that are actually between 10.5 and 8.5 degrees or worse.
    Would it not have been the “slightly higher, deeper CG” that resulted in the resubmission? Or something else we’re not being told about?

  3. Kevin

    Sep 5, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Does any one not think it is a coincidence that the marketing guys are suddenly trying to capitalise on Dufner’s major win and generate some more sales of the D913 drivers

    The 910D2 was good enough for him to win a major so why change ? Of course we know pressure from his sponsors want him to use the latest technology that us punters in the shops will go out and buy. Any pro who wins a major , manufacturers see an immediate increase in sales in drivers, putters, wedges or whatever was the key equipment in them winning that tournament.

    My 910D3 performs better for me than 913 drivers and yes it’s nice to plat the latest sexy equipment I will be waiting until the next model that gives me a significant improvement, the 905R is still in my locker !

  4. TheInfidel

    Sep 5, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Anyone who thinks they can go to a TM, Titleist, Cobra, Callaway or whatever OEM fitting centre and the staff there won’t use the numbers to state a case for getting their newest model is dreaming! How else could they justify the purchase of a $5k machine and their time!? I’d be surprised to hear of anyone who got told “You know what, stick with what you’ve got”.

    I’m not a pro, but I am a single digit player and I made the change to a 910D2 this year by heading up to the local range, handing in my credit card and hitting 6-8 drivers that were “modern tech”. Made a shortlist of 2 then hit some more balls to see what felt good and provided results. Everyone knows what their Sunday Best looks like going down range, it’s not always necessary to stack it up with numbers.

    I like to know when I stand on the tee that the Big Dog in my hand is the one I choose because it felt right and got the best out of my swing, not because someone told me the numbers stacked up behind a white phone box that had a new gimmick.

    • Matt

      Sep 5, 2013 at 11:53 am

      TheInfidel your using the same club selection technique that myself and most pro’s use. Just hit the damn club and see what you get. Actually most pro’s use the 6 to 10 ball rule. If they don’t like what they see within 6 to 10 shots they rule out that club. The reason is any more swings than that and you start to adjust your swing to the club. Launch monitors and club fitting is nothing more than a way to try and sell more clubs. A good player can fit themselves as well as any club fitter.

      • TheInfidel

        Sep 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm

        I’m falling over myself to agree with you here. I’m all for self improvement and getting the best out of hard work and practice. But as Arnie says – you gotta swing your own swing.

        In doing so you’ll instinctively know what works. I’m very hesitant about going to an OEM fitting centre that will likely persuade you into the brand they are attached to. It happens all too often.

  5. naflack

    Sep 4, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Interesting that a pro with his ball speed needs more spin…

    • Rich

      Sep 5, 2013 at 4:49 am

      Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong folks but I thought spin rates had more to do with loft and angle of attack rather than ball speed. Just because you have a high ball speed (swing speed) doesn’t necessarily mean you have a high spin rate too.

      • Matt

        Sep 5, 2013 at 11:43 am

        Actually rich all three play a factor in spin rate. If you take a guy swinging at 90mph with a 10 degree driver swinging with a -2 degree attack angle and match him up against a guy swinging 110mph with a 10 degree driver at a -2 degree attack angle the faster swinger who naturally creates more ball speed will have a some what higher spin rate.

  6. Shawn

    Sep 4, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    I think there is an important lesson for amateurs to be learned from this. Obviously we don’t get to work with the OEM like pros do, but it is so important for Ams to get fitted and understand their numbers on why/how a golf ball reacts based on your own swing! It’s not about 10 yards longer with this club or 14 yards longer with that club, it’s finding a driver that gives you the best launch angle/ spin rate. I’m not a teaching pro or club fitter and don’t pretend to be one, but I can’t stress enough how important it is to engage a certified fitter/pro when you are deciding to fork out your hard earned cash on a new weapon. Most users on this site are serious golfers and read the equipment updates because they want to improve their game. A new driver isn’t going to make you instantly better and could actually hurt your game if its not the right stick for you.

    • vlafroscia

      Sep 4, 2013 at 7:43 pm

      …and I just had TM staff personally fit me for 90 minutes for the SLDR on the launch monitor, including against my own Ping G20 and TM R11 and according to them all the numbers on the SLDR pointed to buy the club, buy the club. Bought the club only becasue it came with a 90 day, 100% store credit satisfaction guarantee – good thing because in real world, side by side, on the course testing both in FL and CA this week it turned out to be not even close to the Ping G20 in any respect, trajectory, spin, distance, feel, nothing – may as well have gone to Walmart and bought a Northwestern driver. I used TM for years and have much respect but the new club is junk and launch monitors mean nothing – tee it up with your own ball on a golf course where you are mnore than familiar where your drives normally land and you’ll get the real truth. Too much reliance on technology and “next best thing” makes the OEM a lot of $$$ but do little to help anyone else. And BTW – it IS about 10 or 14 yards longer, why would you need another driver in the garage if it wasn’t of some benefit.

      • Ventucky Local

        Sep 4, 2013 at 8:58 pm

        Agreed. IMO Field test on home course always tells the true story for me. Trackman is cool tech but I still find real world out in the grass works best for me.

      • Shawn

        Sep 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm

        Im a little confused by the response… Why is getting fit an “issue” and you even said its 10-14 yards longer??? There is only a few ways to gain distance(club head speed, ball speed, spin rate, launch angle) and the numbers (in which you even said) were better than your current G20. There are several course & weather conditions that could have affected your outcome and didn’t pass your eye test. Or it could just be the Indian and not the arrow. I don’t think blaming the TM rep for selling you a club that’s “junk” is justified.

        • Shawn

          Sep 4, 2013 at 9:58 pm

          And second point, if you have a g20 and r11 and they both wok so well for you, why did you feel so compelled to go get fit for another driver if you didn’t think it benefit YOUR game?? I hope the answer is not because all the Tour Pros are using it, so it must be the right club for me too.

    • Michael Benjamin

      Sep 4, 2013 at 9:59 pm

      I agree, but I disagree. Driving the ball is all about confidence. My launch numbers are not ideal (8.5-9 degree launch angle, +2 approach, +/- 1 degree path, 1500-2100 RPM, 122-125 speed, 175-180 ball speed). I would obviously benefit from launching the ball higher, right? I generally have a very low/strong trajectory, get stupid roll on the ball, hit the ball straight (5 yard draw/5 yard fade/straight…. depends on the day and my eye). I have gotten fitted before. I was fitted with a monstrous, nasty looking R1. My numbers were better, but I played it for only 4 rounds. I was missing fairways, my timing was off, I was relying on the club to do the work instead of STRIKING and hitting MY shot. I went back to my Bstone J40 430 w/ a 6.0 Project X (yes- definitely weak for my swing speed, but it works). Driving the ball and driving the ball well is all about picking your shot, imagining your shape, deciding your target, staying balanced, and ripping the golf ball. You HAVE to be aggressive with your driver. When I got “fitted” I lost some swagger with that “fitted driver”… Pick your club that works for you and feel confident with. It obviously has to fall within certain parameters to “work” for you, but finding the “exact” club/shaft for your swing is over rated, in my opinion.

    • Matt

      Sep 5, 2013 at 1:22 am

      You know what they say shawn opinions are like A_S holes everyone’s got one. So here’s my little two cents. It seems getting fit is the new craze. To me it’s nothing more than the new fad in the industry much like square driver heads at one time, adjustable clubs, and now multiple color heads. Just another way for the big OEM’s to try and sell you new equipment. I’ve been playing this game for 20 years now and I remember when club fitters would honestly tell you they couldn’t really fit you until you developed a consistent swing. Well here’s the catch once you develop a consistent swing you can pretty much fit yourself. I’m a pretty good ball striker with a very consistent swing. I know what ball flight I’m looking for and have fit myself as good as any club fitter ever could. New golfers need to face reality, golf’s a hard game even for people who have a natural gift for the game. You can’t buy a game no matter how much money you spend. Like Ben Hogan said you got to dig it out of the dirt!

      • Jack

        Sep 5, 2013 at 2:32 am

        You just need some time too get used to a driver. Every one feels different. It took me a long while to even get used to one. Like months. Not to mention my 3 wood. Keep hitting the balls and you’ll start feeling comfortable with it. You can’t fake high launch low spin numbers. What can affect you is the trust you have in the club.

      • Shawn

        Sep 5, 2013 at 11:49 am

        Once again, you missed my point. No driver or fitting system is going to compensate for a terrible swing. I’m not saying that it will, but the point I was trying me make was this. If you have the technology to UNDERSTAND why the golf ball reacts the way it does, than utilize the information to your advantage when looking to purchase a new driver. Golfers update 2 clubs more than others, driver and putter. If you are going to spend the $300-400 on a new driver, wouldn’t you want to know its setup and fit for your swing? I’m not saying hit balls all day with Trackman on and check every number like Ryo does, but understand why and what your numbers are and fit equipment to suited your swing and ability.

      • Shawn

        Sep 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm

        Matt. I agree with you assessment that if you don’t have a consistent swing, than there is a very little advantage of getting fit. I’m not talking about the guy that plays once a month a shoots 95-110. That guy shouldn’t buy new clubs because there are no advantages if you can’t find the middle of the club face.. But for serious golfers, which you are by your response, what is your decision process on buying a new driver? What makes you walk into a pro shop/ retail shop and throw down your hard earned money for a new stick? Just curious?

        • Matt

          Sep 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm

          First off shawn you are right in your assessment that I am a serious player. A carrier a 2.7 right now and its no thanks to my short game. I decide on a club the same way most pro’s do. First I make sure I’m swinging well that day because all players have their good and bad days from Tiger all the way down to the new hack. Then I make sure I’m good and lose by warming up with my current clubs at that point any club I’m considering be it a driver, fairway wood, hybrid, iron, or wedge has 6 shots to impress me. If I don’t like what I’m seeing and feeling within 6 shots I’m done with that club. The reason for my 6 shots rule is a little piece of wisdom from an article I read from Adam Scott. He said and I agree, Many more swings than that and you will begin to adjust your swing for that club. A club should fit you not the other way around. I’ve actually heard many pro’s say they follow that same club selection strategy. I’ve heard as little a 2 swings to as much as 10 based on the pro. I think it was Sergio that only gave it 2. Also If I’m on an indoor monitor where I can’t see the true flight (not an ideal situation) then I would never test anything seriously with out bringing my current gamer and hitting it first to establish a benchmark. Like I said previously a good player can fit themselves and everyone else isn’t consistent enough to accurately be fit. Hope that helped.

  7. slafa

    Sep 4, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    That’s the degrees mark.

    • Phil

      Sep 4, 2013 at 4:43 pm

      Normal d2 doesn’t have a degrees mark, so the dot after the 5 is different from stock.

  8. DanP

    Sep 4, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Where’s “the dot”?

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K.J. Choi WITB 2018

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Equipment is accurate as of the 2018 Valero Texas Open (4/18/2018).

Driver: Ping G400 Max (9 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x

Driver: Ping G400 Max (9 degrees)
Shaft: Ozik Matrix MFS M5 60X

3 Wood: Ping G400 (14.5 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5 Wood: Ping G400 (17.5 degrees)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Hybrid: Ping G400 (22 degrees)
Shaft: Atlus Tour H8

Irons: Ping G400 (4-PW)
Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Wedges: Ping Glide 2.0 (50-12SS, 54-12SS, 58-10)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Ping Sigma G Wolverine T
Grip: Ping Pistol

Putter: Ping PLF ZB3
Grip: Super Stroke KJ

Putter: Ping Sigma Vault Anser 2
Grip: Ping Pistol

WITB Notes: We spotted Choi testing a number of clubs at the Valero Texas Open. We will update this post when we have his 14-club setup confirmed. 

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Discussion: See what GolfWRX members are saying about Choi’s clubs. 

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I tried the great Golfboarding experiment… here’s how it went

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Corica Park Golf Course is not exactly the first place you’d expect to find one of the most experimental sports movements sweeping the nation. Sitting on a pristine swath of land along the southern rim of Alameda Island, deep in the heart of the San Francisco Bay, the course’s municipal roots and no-frills clubhouse give it an unpretentious air that seems to fit better with Sam Snead’s style of play than, say, Rickie Fowler’s.

Yet here I am, one perfectly sunny morning on a recent Saturday in December planning to try something that is about as unconventional as it gets for a 90-year-old golf course.

It’s called Golfboarding, and it’s pretty much exactly what it sounds like: an amalgam of golf and skateboarding, or maybe surfing. The brainchild of surfing legend Laird Hamilton — who can be assumed to have mastered, and has clearly grown bored of, all normal sports — Golfboarding is catching on at courses throughout the country, from local municipal courses like Corica Park to luxury country clubs like Cog Hill and TPC Las Colinas. Since winning Innovation Of the Year at the PGA Merchandising Show in 2014, Golfboards can now be found at 250 courses and have powered nearly a million rounds of golf already. Corica Park currently owns eight of them.

The man in pro shop gets a twinkle in his eyes when our foursome tells him we’d like to take them out. “Have you ridden them before?” he asks. When we admit that we are uninitiated, he grins and tells us we’re in for a treat.

But first, we need to sign a waiver and watch a seven-minute instructional video. A slow, lawyerly voice reads off pedantic warnings like “Stepping on the golfboard should be done slowly and carefully” and “Always hold onto the handlebars when the board is in motion.” When it cautions us to “operate the board a safe distance from all…other golfboarders,” we exchange glances, knowing that one of us will more than likely break this rule later on.

Then we venture outside, where one of the clubhouse attendants shows us the ropes. The controls are pretty simple. One switch sends it forward or in reverse, another toggles between low and high gear. To make it go, there’s a throttle on the thumb of the handle. The attendant explains that the only thing we have to worry about is our clubs banging against our knuckles.

“Don’t be afraid to really lean into the turns,” he offers. “You pretty much can’t roll it over.”

“That sounds like a challenge,” I joke. No one laughs.

On a test spin through the parking lot, the Golfboard feels strong and sturdy, even when I shift around on it. It starts and stops smoothly with only the slightest of jerks. In low gear its top speed is about 5 mph, so even at full throttle it never feels out of control.

The only challenge, as far as I can tell, is getting it to turn. For some reason, I’d expected the handlebar to offer at least some degree of steering, but it is purely for balance. The thing has the Ackerman angle of a Mack Truck, and you really do have to lean into the turns to get it to respond. For someone who is not particularly adept at either surfing or skateboarding, this comes a little unnaturally. I have to do a number of three-point turns in order to get back to where I started and make my way over to the first tee box.

We tee off and climb on. The fairway is flat and wide, and we shift into high gear as we speed off toward our balls. The engine had produced just the faintest of whirrs as it accelerated, but it is practically soundless as the board rolls along at full speed. The motor nevertheless feels surprisingly powerful under my feet (the drivetrain is literally located directly underneath the deck) as the board maintains a smooth, steady pace of 10 mph — about the same as a golf cart. I try making a couple of S curves like I’d seen in the video and realize that high-speed turning will take a little practice for me to get right, but that it doesn’t seem overly difficult.

Indeed, within a few holes I might as well be Laird himself, “surfing the earth” from shot to shot. I am able to hold the handlebar and lean way out, getting the board to turn, if not quite sharply, then at least closer to that of a large moving van than a full-sized semi. I take the hills aggressively (although the automatic speed control on the drivetrain enables it to keep a steady pace both up and down any hills, so this isn’t exactly dangerous), and I speed throughout the course like Mario Andretti on the freeway (the company claims increased pace-of-play as one of the Golfboard’s primary benefits, but on a Saturday in the Bay Area, it is impossible avoid a five-hour round anyway.)

Gliding along, my feet a few inches above the grass, the wind in my face as the fairways unfurl below my feet, it is easy to see Golfboards as the next evolution in mankind’s mastery of wheels; the same instincts to overcome inertia that brought us bicycles, rollerblades, scooters, skateboards, and more recent inventions such as Segways, Hoverboards and Onewheels are clearly manifest in Golfboards as well. They might not offer quite the same thrill as storming down a snowy mountainside or catching a giant wave, but they are definitely more fun than your standard golf cart.

Yet, there are obvious downsides as well. The attendant’s warning notwithstanding, my knuckles are in fact battered and sore by the time we make the turn, and even though I rearrange all my clubs into the front slots of my bag, they still rap my knuckles every time I hit a bump. Speaking of which, the board’s shock absorber system leaves something to be desired, as the ride is so bumpy that near the end I start to feel as if I’ve had my insides rattled. Then there is the unforgivable fact of its missing a cup holder for my beer.

But these are mere design flaws that might easily be fixed in the next generation of Golfboards. (A knuckle shield is a must!) My larger problem with Golfboards is what they do to the game itself. When walking or riding a traditional cart, the moments in between shots are a time to plan your next shot, or to chat about your last shot, or to simply find your zen out there among the trees and the birds and the spaciousness of the course. Instead, my focus is on staying upright.

Down the stretch, I start to fade. The muscles in my core have endured a pretty serious workout, and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to muster the strength for my golf swing. It is no coincidence that my game starts to unravel, and I am on the way to one of my worst rounds in recent memory.

Walking off the 18th green, our foursome agrees that the Golfboards were fun — definitely worth trying — but that we probably wouldn’t ride them again. Call me a purist, but as someone lacking Laird Hamilton’s physical gifts, I’m happy to stick to just one sport at a time.

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Titleist AVX golf balls passed the test, are now available across the United States

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Titleist’s AVX golf balls first came to retail as an experiment in three markets — Arizona, California and Florida — from October 2017 to January 2018. AVX (which stands for “Alternative to the V and X”) are three-piece golf balls made with urethane covers, and they’re made with a softer feel for more distance than the Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls.

After proving their worth to consumers, Titleist’s AVX golf balls are now available across the U.S. as of April 23, and they will sell for 47.99 per dozen (the same as Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls) in both white and optic yellow.

According to Michael Mahoney, the Vice President of Golf Ball Marketing for Titleist, the AVX is a member of the Pro V1 family. Here’s a basic understanding of the lineup:

  • AVX: Softest, lowest trajectory, lowest spinning, less greenside spin and longest
  • Pro V1x: Firmer than the Pro V1, highest spinning and highest trajectory
  • Pro V1: Sits between the V1x and the AVX in terms of feel, spin and trajectory, and will appeal to most golfers

Different from the Pro V1 or Pro V1x, the AVX golf balls have a new GRN41 thermoset cast urethane cover to help the golf balls achieve the softer feel. Also, they have high speed, low compression cores, a new high-flex casing layer, and a new dimple design/pattern.

For in-depth tech info on the new AVX golf balls, how they performed in the test markets, and who should play the AVX golf balls, listen to our podcast below with Michael Mahoney, or click here to listen on iTunes.

See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the AVX golf balls

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