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Golf Fight! Golfer gets KO’d in Alberta



Warning: This video contains explicit language

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Warning: This video contains explicit language

I had a high school friend who wrestled in the winter and golfed in the summer. He wanted to find a way to combine the two sports. Fortunately, I wasn’t around when (or if) he succeeded. He was a good golfer and a great wrestler, so you understand my reticence.

In the normally-agreeable country of Canada, where fights are restricted to frozen ponds and involve sticks, pucks and the dropping of gloves, a situation happened at the Elk Point Golf and Country Club in the province of Alberta. It can only be described, in the immortal words of Ron Burgundy, as “Wow, that escalated quickly.”

We have no names to attach to the gents involved in the one-punch bout of pugilism. The audio is sketchy at best, so what we can detect are threats, reactions, a sickening thud and apologies (and the giggles of the camera man.)

It seems that white-polo guy attempts to goad neon-green shirt dude into a debate by hurling the words “just walk away” in some sort of “you’re not a man” way. Neon-green guy decides to stand up for all luminescent shirts everywhere and returns to the fray.

“Making it right” somehow enters the picture, as both white-polo guy and neon-green shirt dude agree that something must be made right. Unfortunately, “making it right” involves a haymaker of a right cross from neon-green shirt dude to the jaw of white-polo guy.

There’s something strangely Hollywood about this segment. Smoke (possibly from the camera man’s cigarette) sets a murky scene, trailing across the screen from right to left at least five times. Two damsels run to the aid of the now-unconscious white-polo guy. Immediately remorseful, neon-green shirt guy emphasizes his contrition with a few F-bombs, as all repentant folks have done throughout the ages.

Given the state of the world, with violence exposing itself seemingly everywhere, it should come as no shock that the normally placid, genteel game of golf has fallen victim to such a passionate outburst. We’ve seen professional golfers stalk off greens when slowed down by playing partners, we’ve heard tales of locker-room dress-downs for too-long nails (metal spikes.) It seems the natural course of things that a brief fist fight should occur on the golf course.

Was alcohol involved? Were strokes shaved? Was a swing disrupted? Did someone play into another foursome? In this particular case, we don’t know. For all those posers who have threatened to bury a wedge in someone’s…something, use this as a cautionary lesson. Once executed, you can’t take it back. Golf doesn’t need this. None of us needs this.

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Ronald Montesano writes for from western New York. He dabbles in coaching golf and teaching Spanish, in addition to scribbling columns on all aspects of golf, from apparel to architecture, from equipment to travel. Follow Ronald on Twitter at @buffalogolfer.



  1. YevKasem

    Sep 28, 2013 at 11:53 am

    As Elaine Benis would have said:


  2. D

    Sep 18, 2013 at 10:23 am

    So does anyone actually go to youtube to see what this was about? This wasn’t about golf at all……….

    From youtube.

    golfcrazy6969 2 weeks ago

    Guy in green had a party at his house and the guy who got laid out went into his bedroom and was watching his women sleep naked. no one knew this occurred until the next day on the course when the guy went around bragging watched her naked. this info got back to my friend and after hearing this his 15yo niece also admitted that he came into her room twice trying to we assume catch her in bed. he deserved to be knocked out and im sure a lot of people who have not? stopped with just one punch.

    • D

      Sep 18, 2013 at 10:25 am

      My bad, didn’t scroll all the way down before posting. But agree with what others said. This has no business being on GolfWRX.

  3. Doug

    Sep 17, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Not a proud moment for either of them.

  4. Zach

    Sep 13, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Reminds me of that srixon commercial with gMac getting owned by the UFC fighter.

  5. TheLegend

    Sep 13, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    The white shirt guy made a threat, and he was following him so green shirt turned around and gave him what he was looking for! Good job green! This is nothing iv had a gun pulled out on my buddy b4. Some guy stole his clubs and ran. Golf can have some violence sometimes.

  6. Mike Leether

    Sep 13, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Who called the morality police?. If you don’t wanna watch it, don’t. if you’re offended, leave the site. You’re free to have your opinions. Both camps. Bottom line this is this act of violence DID happen on the golf course and in turn IS relavent. That’s not “IMO”, that is fact!….

  7. J

    Sep 12, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Here’s the lesson in that one. Don’t ever let anyone get inside kicking or punching distance.

  8. Burke

    Sep 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    The youtube uploader said this in the comments….Guy in green had a party at his house and the guy who got laid out went into his bedroom and was watching his women sleep naked. no one knew this occurred until the next day on the course when the guy went around bragging watched her naked. this info got back to my friend and after hearing this his 15yo? niece also admitted that he came into her room twice trying to we assume catch her in bed. he deserved to be knocked out and im sure a lot of people who have not stopped with just one punch.

  9. Ken

    Sep 4, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    If you read the comments on YouTube you will understand the genesis of t his fight. Apparently the guy that got knocked out was “snooping” on the green shirt guys Niece in her bedroom and was caught. That’s why he threw the punch. Listen to what he says at the end…”I didn’t want to do that, he walked in on my Niece”. Kind of changes the way you feel about the video after seeing that, but overall I have to agree with some of the other posters – I don’t feel this fits on Golfwrx

  10. Brian

    Sep 4, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    If you read the YouTube comment this was not a golf argument but something to do with a party the night before. Only thing it has to do with golf is that it happen the next day at the course.

  11. Eric

    Sep 4, 2013 at 9:50 am

    I think this video shows the effects of what can happen when your back side can’t back up your mouth…..even on the golf course. I have a feeling there are a few members on this site that are going to run into a similar situation as this someday with the way they run their mouths in the forums.

  12. tom milhaus

    Sep 4, 2013 at 12:24 am

    words have consequences…I’m sure white shirt dude will think twice before challenging the next green shirt dude he comes across. Wisdom is the better part of valor…you never know who’s going to throw the punch. I don’t mind the post of the video. If you’re going to open your mouth you better be prepared to defend your words.

  13. JB

    Sep 2, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    None of us know what happened before all of this. By the sounds of it, the white shirt guy did something totally wrong. Commenting on what he should/should not have done is unnecessary.

    Well written article BTW…as always

  14. Ronald Montesano

    Sep 2, 2013 at 9:52 am


    Thank you for the compliment. It’s good to be a “so called” writer. Keep reading and keep voicing your thoughts and opinions.

  15. Rocky

    Sep 2, 2013 at 2:41 am

    What do you tell someone itch one black eye?

    Nothing. Your already told them once!

    Those Canadians are violent.

  16. Rick

    Sep 1, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    I expect this kind of stuff from GolfWRX but not Golf Digest. Golf Digest should really vet some of these so called writers.

  17. Ronald Montesano

    Sep 1, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    I doubt it’s the first time someone was decked, knocked out or worse on a golf course. First time I can remember that it was caught on camera and dispersed over the web.

  18. John Mehoff

    Sep 1, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Well the guy in green can apologize all he wants yet it looks like 2nd degree battery to me.

    p.s. I think the guy in White pissed himself.

  19. Yohanan

    Sep 1, 2013 at 1:11 am

    First off – Canucks will “Go” as one hockey player said at the drop of a hat or gloves. Its why they let them fight so they drops the sticks Eh? Now in this case we got clubs. At least he hit him with his fist? Because it sure sounds like niece to me. And KCCO find is accurate AND If white pole guy did or does have a problem then he might think twice about being a perv next time? And if that is the case, then white polo guy might be the one going to jail?

    It is too bad this had to take place on a tee box and tarnish the game of golf. But it just goes to show you how society has changed and how much golf has changed in the last 20 to 30 or so years.


  20. John

    Aug 30, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Sounded like it was Tom Green

  21. yo!

    Aug 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Neither guy did anything to cool down the situation … so the guy with the weak chin ended it.

  22. Ronald Montesano

    Aug 30, 2013 at 11:38 am

    I thought it was “walked up on my tee…” or something.

    • Josh

      Aug 30, 2013 at 1:43 pm

      I heard both after trying to listen several times. If it was “walked in on my niece”, well….don’t know all the details but not sure if I disagree with green shirt.

      If it was “walked up on my tee”, well green shirt should be headed to the jailhouse.

  23. Barry

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Unfortunately-The golf course is not immune to the ugly realities of life, which makes it all the more upsetting when distressing incidents like this happen, as it is often a place we go for therapeutic escapism.It rarely gets to this level-but when two people clash and pride and testosterone are involved-this can happen.I know the feeling I got when my girlfriends head was narrowly missed by an errant shot-by an idiot who never gave a warning shout and offered no apology and smirked at me when confronted-the next level is only a split second away-people do not like like this post on golfwrx because we like to believe golf,our beloved game, and the people who play it are whiter than white-no thugs,cheats or thiefs-reality hurts.Great article.

  24. John

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Walked in on his what???

    • Big_5_Hole

      Aug 30, 2013 at 11:22 am

      I think he says “Walked in on my niece” which indicates this guy may have deserved the sucker punch knock out…. but then again, he may have said something completely different…

      • John

        Aug 30, 2013 at 6:09 pm

        Thought it sounded like niece too, walked in where though, potra John?

      • Philip

        Sep 4, 2013 at 11:27 am

        I think he said peace…

  25. Ronald Montesano

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Evan, that is a cogent response. I find nothing remotely flawed in it. Well thought-out on your part and appreciated by us.

  26. Evan

    Aug 30, 2013 at 8:44 am

    I don’t necessarily agree that the world is more violent than it was. Certainly instances of violence are more visible because of Media/ Youtube. I think 50 years ago (talking to grandparents) people were more upfront with aggression and social conduct in general. People were accountable for their words and actions, if someone was out of line it might lead to a challenge. Young men have been fist fighting since young men have been walking the earth. One could argue that people put up with more ‘talk’ these days and have suppressed confrontation, sometimes leading to an outburst or overreaction. Look at all of the inflammatory comments made on the internet because someone is behind a key board and not face to face.

    This video is an example of an outburst, the white shirted guy obviously was confrontational but did not seem to expect it to get physical. If there is a lesson to be learned here it is that you should be ready to take a punch if you’re going to run your mouth.

    • John

      Aug 30, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      Agreed, if more people thought they might get punched in the face, behavior in general would be more civil… Ironic as that may sound…

    • DB

      Sep 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm

      Couldn’t agree more. When will people be held accountable for their actions again? I’m not saying the guy deserved to be punched. But way too many people are offended by the sight of someone being punched right here. I failed a test to get a job when they asked “Is it ever ok to hit someone?” I thought back to a night at the bar and a guy walking around sticking his hand up girls skirt, after a couple good feels he was knocked out. This should happen more, and lawsuits or police calls less.

    • naflack

      Sep 4, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      well said.

    • christian

      Sep 27, 2013 at 10:42 am

      Best response. Thank you

  27. J

    Aug 30, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Posting the video only helps it reach a broader audience. Justify it as a teaching moment all you like… Laud the negativity of the video… Say that this type of behavior has no place… But apply the same principle to other materials…

    You wouldn’t post a pornographic video and then say that’s disgusting would you?

    The articles have gone downhill lately…

    From a writer pigeon holing muni players with alcoholics and drunken stupidity… To a writer saying violence is bad by spreading images of violence…

    Bravo GolfWRX… As the ” Leadership ” of this establishment is fond of saying…

    Way to take the High Road.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Aug 30, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Pretending it doesn’t exist doesn’t make it go away.

      Thanks for the comment, J.

    • Chris

      Sep 28, 2013 at 2:16 am

      I do slightly understand where your coming from , but at the same time, its just an article and i highly doubt the writer meant to offend anyone. It shows how unpredictable some people can be and we all need to be aware of it. For the record, I do not support violence , but it happens everywhere if you like it or not…even on a quiet golf course.

  28. Leftright

    Aug 30, 2013 at 7:49 am

    This incident begs the question though, when is it time to retaliate for something on the golf course? The other guy obviously used some words that really got under the green shirt guy’s skin but he did not throw a punch. I wonder if the green shirt guy gets charged for assault? I think some ETOH was involved in this altercation.

  29. Lenny

    Aug 30, 2013 at 7:37 am

    As someone who has played hockey professionally and has see and been in fights that was not an altercation (fight) it was a sucker punch….if your gonna fight (or GO as we say) square of and get it done. white shirt guy may have been walking over to green shirt guy but his mannerisms certainly didn’t indicate he wanted to GO and when he got KO’d his hands were by his side.. Then green shirt guys say saying “something like ” I didn’t want to do that” ….yup sucker punch. Launcher, great observation on the cart path!

    • Ronald Montesano

      Aug 30, 2013 at 6:44 pm

      These are very good points, Lenny. Once the gloves are off, the bets are off. No honor among brawlers. If you don’t throw the first one, you might not get to throw the second, as we see above.

    • naflack

      Sep 4, 2013 at 4:10 pm

      I agree with your assessment, absolute sucker punch.
      He absolutely wanted to do what he did or he wouldn’t have done it. I have been in this situation, I simply asked the gentlemen if he was here to golf or to fight, them told him that I was indeed here to golf and if he was here to fight he will easily find some takers in the club house bar. Then I went and played my ball…perhaps lucky enough for me the head pro was in the group behind me but either way sometimes people need some calm perspective. In the gentlemans defense when I walked to play my ball he moved on as well.

  30. Johnny 36

    Aug 30, 2013 at 12:53 am

    Neon = Rig Pig, I would assume

  31. Launcher

    Aug 29, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Someone is very lucky that they weren’t 2 feet closer to the cart path. That could have been really bad.

    • Ronald Montesano

      Aug 30, 2013 at 6:44 am

      Two someones, Launcher. I’m thinking that both guys are in their twenties/early thirties. I remember those days, still a bit hot-headed. Altercations will still easy to come by.

  32. Mat

    Aug 29, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    If you think this isn’t serious, I’d invite you to see what the damage is to something like this:

    • Ronald Montesano

      Aug 30, 2013 at 6:43 am

      I agree with you, Mat. It’s never a lark. This has happened at least twice in soccer leagues, also in fan interaction at professional sporting events. If it had been one-sided, blame would be simple. Both parties put down roots in the altercation. Neither one backed away and both are at fault.

      • Leftright

        Aug 30, 2013 at 7:46 am

        Ron, what is soccer? (sarc) I don’t think I have ever seen a live soccer game. On TV it’s like watching grass grow to me.

  33. Ronald Montesano

    Aug 29, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    SOMEONE took a class on metaphor in school. I wouldn’t read that into it, Vic, but by all means, don’t let me stop you from doing it.

  34. vic

    Aug 29, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    THAT WAS AWESOME! green guy is the best because he represents all the downtrodden underlings yearning to knock out the fat cat capitalist honchos in the world.


  35. Matthew Hopper

    Aug 29, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Totally agree with your assessment mat. And if you buy Ronald’s response I’ve got some swampland for sale.

  36. Ronald Montesano

    Aug 29, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Thank you, Mat. I disagree with your assessment. It’s a teachable moment. If anyone brings his daily, outside burdens to the golf course, a flare-up might be moments away. Watching this video and reading my words will (hopefully) stop folks from raging on the course and injuring someone.

    • naflack

      Sep 4, 2013 at 4:00 pm

      I completely agree!
      Very teachable moment indeed.

      • Curt

        Sep 11, 2013 at 2:38 pm

        I third that motion!!! A very teachable moment, indeed. Either keep your mouth shut, or learn to defend yourself!! Thats the lesson! Cuz you cant stop someone who is dead set on punching you, if you speak up.

    • chowchow

      Sep 4, 2013 at 4:42 pm

      how many people do you think reads this stuff? I am betting less than .0001 of the golfers will read this. Looks like a hockey match broke out at the driving range.

  37. Mat

    Aug 29, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    And for all the complaining you’re doing about the “given…state of the world”, you’re most guilty of purveying the violence. In fact, you’re sanctioning it. This isn’t an article; it’s simply an excuse to post a video you thought was fun – and very violent.

    This had almost nothing to do with golf other than it happened at a golf course. It’s a shame to stain GolfWRX and GolfDigest with this kind of content.

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The differences between good and bad club fitters—and they’re not what you think



Club fitting is still a highly debated topic, with many golfers continuing to believe they’re just not good enough to be fit. That couldn’t be further from the truth, but it’s a topic for another day.

Once you have decided to invest in your game and equipment, however, the next step is figuring out where to get fit, and working with a fitter.  You see, unlike professionals in other industries, club fitting “certification” is still a little like the wild west. While there are certification courses and lesson modules from OEMs on how to fit their specific equipment, from company to company, there is still some slight variance in philosophy.

Then there are agnostic fitting facilities that work with a curated equipment matrix from a number of manufacturers. Some have multiple locations all over the country and others might only have a few smaller centralized locations in a particular city. In some cases, you might even be able to find single-person operations.

So how do you separate the good from the bad? This is the million-dollar question for golfers looking to get fit. Unless you have experience going through a fitting before or have a base knowledge about fitting, it can feel like an intimidating process. This guide is built to help you ask the right questions and pay attention to the right things to make sure you are getting the most out of your fitting.

The signs of a great fitter

  • Launch monitor experience: Having some type of launch monitor certification isn’t a requirement but being able to properly understand the interpret parameters is! A good fitter should be able to explain the parameters they are using to help get the right clubs and understand how to tweak specs to help you get optimized. The exact labeling may vary depending on the type of launch monitor but they all mostly provide the same information….Here is an example of what a fitter should be looking for in an iron fitting: “The most important parameter in an iron fitting” 
  • Communication skills: Being able to explain why and how changes are being made is a telltale sign your fitter is knowledgeable—it should feel like you are learning something along the way. Remember, communication is a two-way street so also being a good listener is another sign your working with a good fitter.
  • Transparency: This involves things like talking about price, budgets, any brand preferences from the start. This prevents getting handed something out of your price range and wasting swings during your fit.
  • A focus on better: Whether it be hitting it further and straighter with your driver or hitting more greens, the fitting should be goal-orientated. This means looking at all kinds of variables to make sure what you are getting is actually better than your current clubs. Having a driver you hit 10 yards farther isn’t helpful if you don’t know where it’s going….A great fitter that knows their stuff should quickly be able to narrow down potential options to 4-5 and then work towards optimizing from there.
  • Honesty and respect: These are so obvious, I shouldn’t even have to put it on the list. I want to see these traits from anybody in a sales position when working with customers that are looking to them for knowledge and information…If you as the golfer is only seeing marginal gains from a new product or an upgrade option, you should be told that and given the proper information to make an informed decision. The great fitters, and I’ve worked with a lot of them, will be quick to tell a golfer, “I don’t think we’re going to beat (X) club today, maybe we should look at another part of your bag where you struggle.” This kind of interaction builds trust and in the end results in happy golfers and respected fitters.

The signs of a bad fitter

  • Pushing an agenda: This can come in all kinds of shapes and sizes. Whether it be a particular affinity towards certain brands of clubs or even shafts. If you talk to players that have all been to the same fitter and their swings and skill levels vary yet the clubs or brands of shafts they end up with (from a brand agnostic facility) seem to be eerily similar it might be time to ask questions.
  • Poor communications: As you are going through the fitting process and warming up you should feel like you’re being interviewed as a way to collect data and help solve problems in your game. This process helps create a baseline of information for your fitter. If you are not experiencing that, or your fitter isn’t explaining or answering your questions directly, then there is a serious communication problem, or it could show lack of knowledge depth when it comes to their ability.
  • Lack of transparency: If you feel like you’re not getting answers to straightforward questions or a fitter tells you “not to worry about it” then that is a big no-no from me.
    Side note: It is my opinion that golfers should pay for fittings, and in a way consider it a knowledge-gathering session. Of course, the end goal for the golfer is to find newer better fitting clubs, and for the fitter to sell you them (let’s be real here), but you should never feel the information is not being shared openly.
  • Pressure sales tactics: It exists in every industry, I get it, but if you pay for your fitting you are paying for information, use it to your advantage. You shouldn’t feel pressured to buy, and it’s always OK to seek out a knowledgeable second opinion (knowledgeable being a very key word in that sentence!).  If you are getting the hard sell or any combination of the traits above, there is a good chance you’re not working with the right fitter for you.

Final thoughts

Great fitters with great reputations and proper knowledge have long lists, even waiting lists, of golfers waiting to see them. The biggest sign of a great fitter is a long list of repeat customers.

Golf is a game that can be played for an entire lifetime, and just like with teachers and swing coaches, the good ones are in it for the long haul to help you play better and build a rapport—not just sell you the latest and greatest (although we all like new toys—myself included) because they can make a few bucks.

Trust your gut, and ask questions!


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The Wedge Guy: Improve your transition for better wedge play



In my opinion, one of the most misunderstood areas of the golf swing is the transition from backswing to downswing, but I don’t read much on this in the golf publications. So, here’s my take on the subject.

Whether it’s a short putt, chip or pitch, half wedge, full iron or driver swing, there is a point where the club’s motion in the backswing has to come to a complete stop–even if for just a nano-second–and reverse direction into the forward swing. What makes this even more difficult is that it is not just the club that is stopping and reversing direction, but on all but putts, the entire body from the feet up through the body core, shoulders, arms and hands.

In my observation, most golfers have a transition that is much too quick and jerky, as they are apparently in a hurry to generate clubhead speed into the downswing and through impact. But, just as you (hopefully) begin your backswing with a slow take-away from the ball, a proper start to the downswing is also a slower move, starting from this complete stop and building to maximum clubhead speed just past impact. If you will work on your transition, your ball striking and distance will improve, as will your accuracy on your short shots and putts. Let’s start there.

In your wedge play, your primary objective is to apply just the exact amount of force to propel the ball the desired distance. In order to do that, it makes sense to move the club slower, as that allows more precision. I like to think of the pendulum on a grandfather clock as a great guide to tempo and transition. As the weight goes back and forth, it comes to a complete stop at each end, and achieves maximum speed at the exact bottom of the arc. If you put that picture in your head when you chip and putt, you will develop a tempo that encourages a smooth transition at the end of the backswing.

The idea is to achieve a gradual acceleration from the end of the backswing to the point of impact, but for most golfers, this type of swing is likely much slower than yours is currently. I encourage you to not be in a hurry to force this acceleration, as that causes a quick jab with the hands, because the shoulder rotation and slight body rotation cannot move that quickly from its end-of-backswing rotation.

Here’s a drill to help you picture this kind of swing pace. Drawing on that grandfather clock visual, hold your wedge at the very end of the grip with two fingers, and get it moving like the clock pendulum–back and through. Watch the tempo and transition for a few moments, and then try to mimic that with your short or half swing tempo. No faster, no slower. You can even change how far you pull the club up to start this motion to see what happens to the pendulum tempo on longer swings.

An even better exercise is to have a friend hold a club in this manner right in front of you while you are practicing your chipping or pitching swing and try to “shadow” that motion with your swings. You will likely find that your transition is much too fast and jerky to give you the results you are after.

If you will practice this, I can practically guarantee your short-range transition will become really solid and repeatable. From there, it’s just a matter of extending the length of the swing to mid-range pitches, full short irons, mid-irons, fairway woods, and driver–all while feeling for that gradual transition that makes for great timing, sequencing, and tempo.

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