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The original Tight Lies fairway woods from Adams Golf were launched in 1995, but 18 years later golfers might need them now more than ever.

That’s because of the design of today’s fairway woods, which are much larger than the fairway woods of the past. That added size, combined with breakthroughs in materials and design, has allowed them to fly faster and farther than ever before.

But the added distance hasn’t done much to solve the No. 1 problem most golfers have with fairway woods — from anywhere but off the tee or from a perfect lie in the fairway, they’re extremely hard to get airborne.

That’s why Adams is releasing a 2013 version of the Tight Lies fairway woods, which like the original design will give golfers the confidence to hit a fairway wood even when the lie isn’t perfect.

Click here to see what members are saying about the new Tight Lies in the forums.

According to Mike Fox, director of product line management for Adams Golf, the average size of a fairway wood currently hovers around 175 cubic centimeters. But the new Tight Lies fairway woods are only 133 cubic centimeters, and have a shallow, low-profile design that makes them extremely forgiving and easy to get airborne.

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Generally, smaller, low-profile fairway woods lack the distance of larger, deeper-face designs, but Fox said that golfers shouldn’t worry about losing yards with the Tight Lies. That because for the first time, Adams is using its “Cut-Through Slot Design” in a fairway wood —  slots on the crown and sole of the club that increase spring-like effect.

The Cut-Thru design allows the Tight Lies to have a characteristic time of 220, which is twice as high as the originals. And despite the fact that the Tight Lies are higher spinning than Adams’ larger, deeper-faced Super S and LS fairway woods (Click here to read a full review on them), and have a slightly lower CT, many golfers will actually hit the Tight Lies farther than those clubs because of the increased carry and consistency.

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 At Address: 16-degree Tight Lies (Left), 14.5-degree Tight Lies Tour (right)

Adams will launch a 16-degree version of the Tight Lies fairway woods at retail on August 15 for $199, and follow shortly afterward with a 3 wood (14 degrees), 5 wood (19 degrees) and 7 wood (22 degrees) for the same price. The clubs will come stock with a Mitsubishi Rayon Bassara shaft that will measure 42.5 inches in the 3 wood.

Adams is also planning to release a lower-launching, lower-spinning tour version ($229) in early September, which will be available in 14.5- and 18-degree models and come stock with an Aldila Tour Blue ATX shaft.

Think you’re a shoo-in the for the tour model? Maybe not. According to Fox, Adams Golf Staff Members Tom Watson and Kenny Perry both preferred the standard Tight Lies fairway wood during testing this week at The Greenbrier Classic, and they are planning to use them this week in the tournament.

Click here to see what members are saying about the new Tight Lies in the forums.

 

Click here to see what members are saying about the new Tight Lies in the forums.

 

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  2. George Leopold

    Oct 18, 2013 at 10:41 am

    I need advice on the best way to hit the Adams tight lies 16° fairway wood. If I hit it off my front foot with a sweeping motion like a driver I get no consistency. If I put it in mid stance and hit down on it like a wedge it seems to improve trajectory and distance. Any suggestions.

    • DBO

      Dec 3, 2013 at 6:11 am

      Hi George,

      My suggestion is to play it two balls in front of centered. This should be halfway between driver and low iron set up. With proper swing and rotation you should make contact with the ball at the lowest part of your swing. This is the setup that I was taught from my pro and has helped me hit my 3wood and 3 hybrid more consistently straight and longer than ever.. (I used to hit 3hybrid 185-190 and now can hit it 210-220 consistent with long of 230+)

      Hope this helps.

      DBO

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  4. alan

    Aug 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Great concersation guys, except for the one jerk who shall remain nameless.
    My take is that Adams is making freat fairway matals and hybrids with or without TM. Their new management may be changing the color pallete of the clubs, BUT the R&D efforts are still seperate. (my friend works at Adams and he should know)
    My only comment is that while the new tight lies soundslike it will help a number of golfers hit better fairway shots, some of us have another issue. I have a very accute doenward attack angle and I need deep faced fairway metals to make solid contact with the ball. I have tried a number of shallow faced woods and I hit the ball way too high on the face.
    Believe it or not, the fairway woods that have “fixed” this swing error for me are 2005 Cobra SZ’s. I got them in 3+ (13.5*) 4+ (16.5*) and a 7 (21*). Their faces are deeper than EVEN the new Calli X hot !!!!
    Just another point of infoe their face inserts are 355 Carpenter steel Which may not even be conforming. I reshafted all three with Fuji Motore 65 gram F1 shafts and they blow away any new clubs when I try out the latest and greatest at my local Golfsmith on their launch monitor !!!!!1

  5. RickStone

    Jul 26, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Strip’d nailed it. I play that ’02 Tight Lies 3 strong (13.5) with the tungsten face. Love this club. I actually considered replacing it with all the recent hype about RBZ stage 2 and the x-hot. So I went in to try them all out, and overall was impressed the most by the Nike Covert, standard non adjustable model (who knew?) because I hit it very consistent. Then I decided to do what most of us should do but often overlook because we get new club fever… I went and got that “old thing” out of the car and compared it to the new 3 woods. It was amazing what happened next… I hit that one consistently further than any of the newer models. The newer ones were a lil more forgiving off the tee, but shorter, and substantially shorter off the deck. Iknow, I know… it’s my club that’s why… and that is why that wasn’t the amazing part… The guys who work their started hitting my club, and the same thing happened with them! They even taped up the xhot 13 degree 3 wood… still couldn’t get it longer! At this point a small crowd had gathered around the simulator to see them try and dethrone the “old Adams ovation tight lies.” Then the manager came and broke up the action. Guess it’s not very good for selling new clubs when a club you can snag on eBay for $20 is outperforming all the new clubs…

  6. Im nobody:(

    Jul 26, 2013 at 12:37 am

    Is the average age on bere really 15 ?0

  7. t120

    Jul 25, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    “Think you’re a shoo-in the for the tour model? Maybe not. According to Fox, Adams Golf Staff Members Tom Watson and Kenny Perry both preferred the standard Tight Lies fairway wood… ”

    Yes, well, no offense to the talents of either of these guys, but they ARE in fact playing on the senior tour and are also over the age of 50 with declining power/stamina, etc. I highly doubt either would have gamed the standard version in their prime.

    Which brings me to the real question. “Could you please define ‘standard’?” – because they didn’t say OTR, and I’ve heard some companies are willing to actually make a club for a pro. Just saying.

  8. Brockohol

    Jul 25, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Is that some sort of Adams version of the “TP” logo?

    I always wondered why no one has tried copying the TP “concept” for their higher end shafts/tour heads.

  9. pinhigh

    Jul 16, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Actually, I welcome this and just may have to give it a shot. I did experiment with the original Tight Lies way back with much success..but with something akin to a DGS steel shaft in it, the distances would not compete with today’s woods. I don’t know about you but the modern, low spinning and strong lofted 3W are really frustrating me and are begining to possibly be a misfit for many players today. Sure I can bomb them off the tee (currently an Adams 14.5* XTD with the Fubuki A) – that is if I catch it with a nice sweeping blow. But off the deck, I am more inconsistent with this kind of club than ever. Furthermore, there are very few times I need it with today’s long driver and long ball. When I don’t hit the driver off the tee, then it means I usually hit the hybrid off the tee because I am needing to layup from a hazard or to a yardage and the new 3W goes too far anyway. This shallow Tight Lies might give me (you) a better option off the deck on the longest par-5s and get a little more backspin and a little more carry (since the modern designers typically guard the par-5 approach anyway). Interesting!

  10. strip'd

    Jul 5, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    well if there anything like the tungsten tight lies that came with the aldila shafts from back in like 02…..they should be amazing. Still have mine in the bag and its the best club ive ever owned

  11. Joe Golfer

    Jul 3, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Seems like a decent idea overall. For those dissenting, keep in mind that they also have the other two models, the LS and Super S. It’s just a third option: it’s not like it is the only model from which to choose.
    I’ve found, like many, that the bigger headed 3 wood is more difficult to hit off the fairway.
    While I always thought the original Tight Lies was too shallow faced for my taste, I do approve of going to a smaller head. Just maybe not this small.
    Something around 150 cc’s seems about right for my taste, but it’s a subjective game, so whatever floats your boat.

  12. Ozzie88

    Jul 3, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Will the 16* be released in left handed?

    • Alex

      Jul 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm

      16* and a 19* will be offered in LH i believe.

  13. David

    Jul 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    If I could find one of those little yellow faces that makes a “puke face” I would use it right now. The “White Devil” (TMAG) is killing this company. The last good thing from Adams was their MB irons and Super line. That titanium stuff was amazing. Now we are re-releasing stuff?!?!?!

    • Tom

      Jul 3, 2013 at 10:32 pm

      Pretty sure they will still release titanium stuff. This sounds like it is just a special edition legacy club or something. Everybody talks about how TMAG is screwing this company up, but i don’t get that. Adams is still putting out quality clubs and I’m sure their next lineup will be no exception. I agree that the white clubs was kind of a fail, but this club is matte black so maybe they are going back. 🙂

    • DBO

      Dec 3, 2013 at 6:18 am

      Taylor made has nothing to do with what the engineers at Adams do.. Adams makes superior products and this club is a beast…

  14. GSark

    Jul 3, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Wow! Adams just keeps bringing it. Yes they are called fairway metals for a reason, and I think these look hot. If the tech talk gets backed up these should be epic.The hole top end of my bag is Adams ( 9064ls, Bul and A-12) and Im not one to switch up because of how a club looks or sounds, its all feel and performance for me. Having said that I feel a change coming on!

    • Sebastian

      Sep 29, 2014 at 5:42 am

      As a prospective buyer of ADAMS Toght-Lie set, I’m coencrned about the shaft length of the set fitting a six-foot, strong senior player with a long history of serious duffing, just now settling down to maintain focus throughout the swing. Anybody out there to give a little counsel??Thanx in advance for intelligence on this issue!!

  15. Jerry

    Jul 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    I used to play the original Tight Lies 3 & 5 woods. LOVED THEM! Very easy to hit. I am so sorry that I was influenced by the siren song of “improved” technology. I currently carry the Adams Speedline LP fairway woods. The 5 wood is my “go to” from most lies. The 3 is very hard for me to hit consistently off the deck altho it really goes when I get it flush. I will be very interested to try the new Tight Lies. Maybe I can regain that extra 15-20 yards over the 5. The small heads don’t bother me as I grew up with “real woods”. My old driver was smaller than today’s 9 metal.

  16. JD

    Jul 3, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Wrote comment on iPhone sorry for the typos

  17. JD

    Jul 3, 2013 at 11:55 am

    My take us that fairway woods are little if any better that classics like the Callaway BB with the Warbird sole plate , the Orlimar tri metal or the original tight lies , especially out of tough rough or less than optimal lies .

    This was reinforced when I dusted off an old tri metsl to play Torrey Pines with the rough up – it vastly outperformed “modern” stuff – the 12 degree Warbird went back in the bag as a short driver – par 5 attacker as well -,and I hit a high draw and play to a 4.3 so don’t need much help – just think fairway woods “advances” are hyoe not performance – anyone else agree?

    Hope this is an exception

    • Jack

      Jul 3, 2013 at 9:49 pm

      I agree on that. The biggest difference may be the shaft that’s going into the head. I’m thinking the biggest difference though is the development of hybrid heads. I think in most situations a hybrid beats a 5W. Though I’ve normally had a 5W in the bag. I guess I’m not really thinking get on the green from 200 plus yards and from the rough.

  18. Asleep

    Jul 3, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Nice to see Adams bring back the Tight Lies line with a small headed 3-wood. I always preferred the smaller head size. I bet sound & feel is excellent.

  19. michael

    Jul 3, 2013 at 9:24 am

    dont like the cursive adams logo… i hope thats not there new logo…looks old and weak.

    • Launcher

      Jul 3, 2013 at 2:40 pm

      It is their new logo, and I agree, it’s hideous!
      R.I.P. to the real AdamsGolf.
      TM is f-ing things up at a record pace.

    • benseattle

      Jul 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm

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      I agree completely. This is a perfect reason to hate a golf club.

      (Golf would be a great game if we didn’t have to put up with the “golfers.”)

  20. Jonathen

    Jul 3, 2013 at 3:32 am

    shawn…adams has always made great hybrids. I dont like that taylormade influenced adams to make their clubs with a white crown, i dont like the white crown.
    mike…i am going to agree with mr.carroll on this one. it seems like adams designed this club for the tight fairway lies and it shouldnt be used from thick stuff.
    i do find the slot on the top a little big for such a small head but i would be interested in hitting it to see what it can do. i myself have a fast10 3 wood and an a12 hybrid and find them to be great additions to my bag. we shall see. low profile irons would be an interesting idea. do you mean small top line..?

  21. Mike B

    Jul 3, 2013 at 1:18 am

    I hate low profile small headed woods! try using them in thick rough and watch the club go under the ball! What’s next Adams… Low profile irons? TMaG is trying to kill you off!

    • Shawn Carroll

      Jul 3, 2013 at 3:22 am

      Mike B – the club is called “Tight Lies” for a reason. I don’t think the Adams R&D department designed this club to be hit out of thick ruff and bermuda and fescue. This club should be used from tight fairway lies…And since Taylormade Golf bought Adams Golf, they have together produced some of the best adams woods including the Super LS series and Fast12 series.

    • GSark

      Jul 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm

      They are called fairway metals for a reason. You should not even be thinking about trying to hit a “fairway metal” from the rough.

      • Michael Benjamin

        Jul 25, 2013 at 6:28 pm

        GSark… you are a knuckle head. If people can hit a wood out of the rough then they should take advantage of it. What about when the rough is thin (like when a tree blocks the sun and grass thins out around it), or when the rough is burnt out, or when the lie is perfect in the rough, or when the ground is firm and you can absolutely get enough club face on the ball without worrying about the rough grabbing your club head, or when you do not suck at golf? The only concession I will give you is that there ARE definitely times when you should not be hitting a wood out of the rough, but to make a blanket statement like you did is pretty bush league.

        • brian

          Jul 25, 2013 at 8:47 pm

          seriously? dude dont name call. Calling other people names like we are kids out on the playground is really something thats bush league. Its cool to disagree, but no need to do that

          I am really excited for this club to come out i definitely could use a fairway to help me get the ball up in the air out of the fairway. I really cant wait to get my hands on this bad boy at a demo day

          • Michael Benjamin

            Jul 29, 2013 at 3:52 pm

            Brian, learn to hit a 3 or a 4 iron…

            BT

            Definition of “Knuckle Head” – (informal) ill-informed; a person of questionable judgement.

    • John

      Jul 3, 2013 at 9:06 pm

      Well if you actually played golf for any time you’d know how amazing the are from any lie.

  22. Blanco

    Jul 2, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    I thought the slot on top didn’t help distance enough to matter? I just can’t stand that scooped slot on the crown but otherwise looks like a nice product. I especially like the 16º loft at 42.5″… that’s hot.

    What’s the Tour Blue ATX? Is that the retail name for the tour blue?

  23. Jeff

    Jul 2, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    that’s hot

    • Dave

      Jul 23, 2013 at 1:45 pm

      I’m excited about these. I’m sure they won’t be anything over the top but they will be easier for the average player to hit out of the rough and fairway.

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Chesson Hadley WITB 2024 (March)

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Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 70 TX

3-wood: Titleist TSR2+ (14.5 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 TX

Irons: Titleist T200 (3), Titleist 620 CB (4, 5), Titleist 620 MB (6-PW)
Shafts: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 105 X (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-PW)

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (52-12F, 56-14F), WedgeWorks (60-K)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG 2-Ball
Grip: Odyssey

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

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Driver: Cobra Darkspeed X (8 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 70 M5

  • The white circle that appears at the top of the face a removable sticker that’s used for launch monitor tracking, and Woodland removes it for competition!

3-wood: Cobra Darkspeed X (14 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 GW100 Prototype

7-wood: Cobra LTDx LS prototype (20 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 GW100 Prototype

Irons: Wilson Staff (18 degrees), Cobra King MB (4-PW)
Shafts: KBS Tour C-Taper Limited X

Wedges: Cobra SB (48), Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (52-08F, 56-14F), Cobra King (60)
Shafts: KBS Tour C-Taper Limited X (48 degrees), KBS Tour V-Ten 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron T-5 Proto
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Tour 3.0P

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

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Q&A: Martin Trainer on his Bobby Grace “Greg Chalmers” putter, 6.5-degree driver, and “butter knife” 2-iron

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As unbiasedly as I can put it, Martin Trainer has one of the coolest club setups in professional golf. (At some point soon, I’ll put together a top-10 list of “coolest club setups on Tour,” but I know that Trainer will be in the top-10)

What a lineup. He plays a 6.5-degree Wilson prototype driver, a 13-degree Wilson prototype 3-wood, a true blade Wilson Staff Model 2-iron, and a Bobby Grace “Greg Chalmers Commemorative” putter!

 

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I mean, look at this 2-iron from address…

To quote the great author R.L. Stine: “Goosebumps.”

On Wednesday at the 2024 Texas Children’s Houston Open, I caught up with Trainer to learn more about his bag setup.

Here’s what he had to say:

You have the Internet going crazy over your bag setup, and your putter. Where’d you pick the Bobby Grace-Greg Chalmers putter up? How long have you had it?

MT: This was from when Bobby Grace came to my course in California: Cal Club. And for whatever reason, they just started having them in the shop. So then I took my buddy’s, started using it, and made, like, a million putts in a row, which is how every putter story begins, I guess.

And then, I bought a couple of my own, used it for years, got to the Tour with it, won on Tour with it (the 2019 Puerto Rico Open). Then, about a year later, started using another putter, did that for a couple years, but now it’s back in the bag.

When did it come back in the bag?

MT: December of this past year. So a few months ago.

What year would you say was the first time you threw that in the bag, or, like, when you bought it?

MT: God…Probably, 2016, maybe? 2018?

Do you remember how much you paid for it?

MT: I don’t know, actually. Maybe $100-150 bucks or something. I think that’s the only golf club I’ve bought between high school and now. Well, two, since I bought two of them.

The driver is interesting, too. What went into the prototyping process?

MT: That was a version of the current driver, but it was the prototype that they first came out with for Tour guys to try. And for whatever reason, I just never switched out to the new one.

It’s just 6.5 degrees, right?

MT: Yeah. Very low loft, yeah.

What kind of ball speed do you have with that these days?

MT: Like high 170’s.

Yeah, that’ll work. And then a 2-iron blade? We’re seeing fewer and fewer of those out here.

MT: Yeah. The butter knife.

Very cool thing to have in the bag. Have you done any testing with driving irons? 

MT: Yeah, I used to have a thicker one, but it was a little offset, and I never hit it that well. And then finally, I started messing around with the butter knife. And I remember the first time I looked down at it, I was terrified. And then I ended up getting used to it, putting it in play, and it’s been in place since. It’s a pretty good club for me.

How far do you carry that? 

MT: Like 235.

A good little wind club, I’m sure.

MTL Yeah, exactly. I can hit it very low. It’s great.

I love it. You have people shook looking at that. Thanks for the time, man. 

MT: Absolutely.

To see more photos and discussion of Trainer’s bag, click here.

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